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Although consoles have improved greatly over the past ten or so years, one thing seems to have improved very little, and that is what our games come on. Originally it was cartridges for the likes of the NES,Master System, SNES,Mega Drive, N64 and a few others. The arival of the Playstation say the change to CD based consoles, the Dreamcast also uses this. Then with the arival of the PS2 we say the leap to using DVD's to store the game data.
I thought it would be a good idea for the big name companies, mainly Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Sega and some hardware companies to try and create a new type of storage device that would increase the capacity available to the programmers.
I heard nintendo had a new type of CD/DVD that they where going to use but I'm not sure if this is true. I also heard of new technology currently being tested in Japan, where one small disk (it is square shaped and is about 6cm long) has the storage capabilities of around 5 DVD's.
Console improve all the time so why not try and make the storage that the games improve too, this is what we need for the so called "next generation console". It won't happen with the PS2, GC or X-box but hopefully with the consoles after that.
With a CD you can hold at most 783 MB. The most you can store on a DVD is around 15.9 GB but thats only if it is double sided and double layered. IBM have been working on Holographic data storage, early devices have the storage capacity of around 125 GB and a transfer rate of around 40 MB. Eventually these devices could reach 1 TB (Terrabyte =1000GB) with a rate of 1GB a second.
Imagine a games machine that uses this technology. It obviously wouldn't be for a while but imagine what this could do, instead of buying games they could be downloaded straight to your console and stored on a small disk, games developers would have far more room to create games without having to worry about how much room is left on the disk. I think in the future the storage will greatly improve, maybe not like this for quite some time but it will gradualy get there.
I thought it would be a good idea for the big name companies, mainly Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Sega and some hardware companies to try and create a new type of storage device that would increase the capacity available to the programmers.
I heard nintendo had a new type of CD/DVD that they where going to use but I'm not sure if this is true. I also heard of new technology currently being tested in Japan, where one small disk (it is square shaped and is about 6cm long) has the storage capabilities of around 5 DVD's.
Console improve all the time so why not try and make the storage that the games improve too, this is what we need for the so called "next generation console". It won't happen with the PS2, GC or X-box but hopefully with the consoles after that.
With a CD you can hold at most 783 MB. The most you can store on a DVD is around 15.9 GB but thats only if it is double sided and double layered. IBM have been working on Holographic data storage, early devices have the storage capacity of around 125 GB and a transfer rate of around 40 MB. Eventually these devices could reach 1 TB (Terrabyte =1000GB) with a rate of 1GB a second.
Imagine a games machine that uses this technology. It obviously wouldn't be for a while but imagine what this could do, instead of buying games they could be downloaded straight to your console and stored on a small disk, games developers would have far more room to create games without having to worry about how much room is left on the disk. I think in the future the storage will greatly improve, maybe not like this for quite some time but it will gradualy get there.
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Yeah storage is a big issue with publishers like way back when the Playstation was released the games were only on one disc, then it grew and games like G-police were spread over 2 and now games like Fear effect and Final Fantasy are on 4 and 5.
Although swapping discs doesn't effect the gamplay it's still annoying to get out of your cosy bed to swap CD's.
The storage capactiy of games grows with each generation of consoles like the Amiga had floppy's which had just half of the storage space of current floppy discs but they seemd to manage putting games like Soccer Kid and Cannon Fodder on.
But New games take up alot more space with the FMV's,music and all sorts of files needed for the games so this has to be on something big enough to store it.CD's seemed to be the best method, having a nice 680 mb but as you know games get larger on the megabyte size all the time so CD's are now becoming to small for alot of games.
Sony have definatly taken this into account and made DVD the primary format for the games which provides publishers with the most amount of space avilible,The 40gb hard drive may be usefull for the DVD to install some of the information to it and provide more space and sevely cut loading times down. We all know how it works we download a 1.5 mb setup file from the internet and it installs a massive program onto our system, Same thing here.
They always find a solution to publishing their games, whatever amount of space availible so i don't think we should worry.
Although swapping discs doesn't effect the gamplay it's still annoying to get out of your cosy bed to swap CD's.
The storage capactiy of games grows with each generation of consoles like the Amiga had floppy's which had just half of the storage space of current floppy discs but they seemd to manage putting games like Soccer Kid and Cannon Fodder on.
But New games take up alot more space with the FMV's,music and all sorts of files needed for the games so this has to be on something big enough to store it.CD's seemed to be the best method, having a nice 680 mb but as you know games get larger on the megabyte size all the time so CD's are now becoming to small for alot of games.
Sony have definatly taken this into account and made DVD the primary format for the games which provides publishers with the most amount of space avilible,The 40gb hard drive may be usefull for the DVD to install some of the information to it and provide more space and sevely cut loading times down. We all know how it works we download a 1.5 mb setup file from the internet and it installs a massive program onto our system, Same thing here.
They always find a solution to publishing their games, whatever amount of space availible so i don't think we should worry.
Aliboy wrote:
> The first cd was made around the 1980's although the idea was there
> a long time before that. Think the first cd's where released in the
> UK about 1982. Then better one where released in 1984.
1982 was the year CD and Drives were first manufactured for 'public' use... hoever... not invented/patented/etc...
> The first cd was made around the 1980's although the idea was there
> a long time before that. Think the first cd's where released in the
> UK about 1982. Then better one where released in 1984.
1982 was the year CD and Drives were first manufactured for 'public' use... hoever... not invented/patented/etc...
The first cd was made around the 1980's although the idea was there a long time before that. Think the first cd's where released in the UK about 1982. Then better one where released in 1984.
_DIE_jolster wrote:
> (I'm talking about using electricity cables to
> send the data over, 'cos this can be done).
Not even going there man! :)
> (I'm talking about using electricity cables to
> send the data over, 'cos this can be done).
Not even going there man! :)
Casa Nova wrote:
What was they used
> for in 1971? PC related stuff?
I dunno...
so, I just had a quick look around...
and theres a bit of conjecture about when it actually was invented, the year seems to depend on where you go...
Although from what I can gather, it was invented in the lat sixties... and patented in 1970/71 ...
But apparently it was designed for music storage and playback... ???
What was they used
> for in 1971? PC related stuff?
I dunno...
so, I just had a quick look around...
and theres a bit of conjecture about when it actually was invented, the year seems to depend on where you go...
Although from what I can gather, it was invented in the lat sixties... and patented in 1970/71 ...
But apparently it was designed for music storage and playback... ???
What they should do is take the internet away from the current cable based technology and start giving everyone satelite uplinks/downlinks, this would really fly, but would monopolies the technology to Sky in the UK, who could then charge what they wanted.
What about, instead of inventing bigger and better data storage, why don't the next generation of consoles have a permanent, high speed internet connection (I'm talking about using electricity cables to send the data over, 'cos this can be done). Instead of physically buying new games, why don't they make it so you connect to the internet, go to a specific developer's website and order the game like that, over the internet, and the data would be uploaded to your console or whatever. That would cut costs of shipping and whatever as well. Everyone wins. But that'll have to wait, 'cos the current internet speeds are really slow, but in a few years - who knows?
Aliboy wrote:
I heard nintendo had a new type of
> CD/DVD that they where going to use but I'm not sure if this is
> true. I also heard of new technology currently being tested in
> Japan, where one small disk (it is square shaped and is about 6cm
> long) has the storage capabilities of around 5 DVD's.
A good few years back now... A Russian engineer/scientist developed a CD which held 6-7 times the amount of data than a DVD...
However the industry has decided to settle with DVD technology, so you'll have to live with it!
If nothing else... remeber that CD's were invented back in 1971... but wernt really used for computers until the early ninties...
Also... a square shaped disk? ... is this the opposite of a cube that looks round?
:)
I heard nintendo had a new type of
> CD/DVD that they where going to use but I'm not sure if this is
> true. I also heard of new technology currently being tested in
> Japan, where one small disk (it is square shaped and is about 6cm
> long) has the storage capabilities of around 5 DVD's.
A good few years back now... A Russian engineer/scientist developed a CD which held 6-7 times the amount of data than a DVD...
However the industry has decided to settle with DVD technology, so you'll have to live with it!
If nothing else... remeber that CD's were invented back in 1971... but wernt really used for computers until the early ninties...
Also... a square shaped disk? ... is this the opposite of a cube that looks round?
:)
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