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Thu 06/10/05 at 00:53
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Martial Arts fest from Thailand in a similar style to Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan or Jet Li style.

"No Stunt Doubles. No CGI. No Wire Work." It boasts.

I'd noticed it on Play.com while shopping for other items, and it sounded like my sort of thing (being a Bruce Lee nut), so I made the purchase.

First of all, let's clear one thing up - it's got pretty much no plot whatsoever (a failing common to most asian films of this genre), so don't go expecting the matrix here. The matrix offers you, while impressive, clearly computer generated (poorly at times) fight scenes, here we have the real deal. Perhaps the most realistic fights you'll ever see on the big screen.

The actors, all clearly seasoned martial artists, are taking some serious punishment here in the name of film - something western film-makers can only dream of thanks to strict safety laws. No problem for our eastern cousins though. "Hey, how shall we do this scene where this guy has a fridge smashed into his face?" "How about we just smash a fridge into his face?" "Works for me - we'll pay him time and a half for today."

The acting isn't completely terrible in between fight scenes, and it managed to keep my interest well enough. If you're into your into martial arts films, most of us are, and you value realism above anything else, you ought not to miss this.
Thu 06/10/05 at 17:31
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I realise UFC may be the real deal, but that is getting so much like the farce that is WWE, it's scary. Those men may be the hardest fighters in the world, but they're also complete w***ers, kissing their muscles any chance they get. I enjoy it for the most part, but they really need to dispense of this American Gladiators style hype crap. Without sounding too much like a fanboy, it was far better before it got swamped with commercialised tack. There are still lesser known tournaments such as Pride, Vale Tudo and others, but they are destined for the same cringeworthy image.
Thu 06/10/05 at 14:28
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I know what you mean, it was a film.
I just thought they went too far, over-did it.
Just my opinion. :-)

Take Bruce Lee's stuff. Unrealistic as in a fight wouldn't happen like that and clearly choreographed but never got silly. I think Ong Bak got silly.
I loved the beginning bit with the tree though. :-)
Thu 06/10/05 at 12:35
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Strafio wrote:
> There was no wirework in it?
> I did find that a little hard to believe... kudos to the guy who did
> it if so.
>
> Anysway, even without all that I'd hardly say realistic.
> It started off with a little bit of realism but gradually degraded
> into the usual cliché OTT choreography. I'd've liked it better
> if he'd've stuck to the Thai Boxing he was supposed have been brought
> up in instead of randomly using Capoeira and Kung Fu...
>
> But hey, I suppose it was more about the action than
> "realism", it's just with a dose of realism it could've
> been so much better.

muh

It's great entertainment whatever it is.


Just like how Wrestling is more intersting than Boxing. Boxing is real and dull, wrestling is a complete farce yet far more interesting because they stage it to be so.
Thu 06/10/05 at 11:48
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I thought it was great as it was.
Thu 06/10/05 at 11:44
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I wasn't quite asking it to be that realistic...
It's like degrees of realism. The stunts James Bond pulls are hardly realistic but if he started to fly by flapping his wings then that would just be taking plss.

They could've tipped realism slightly to make it more "interesting" than the UFC without taking the... you know?
Thu 06/10/05 at 11:40
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It's a spectacle, if you want realism then watch UFC.
Thu 06/10/05 at 11:38
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There was no wirework in it?
I did find that a little hard to believe... kudos to the guy who did it if so.

Anysway, even without all that I'd hardly say realistic.
It started off with a little bit of realism but gradually degraded into the usual cliché OTT choreography. I'd've liked it better if he'd've stuck to the Thai Boxing he was supposed have been brought up in instead of randomly using Capoeira and Kung Fu...

But hey, I suppose it was more about the action than "realism", it's just with a dose of realism it could've been so much better.
Thu 06/10/05 at 00:58
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Will give that a watch. Not saying that I'm blood thirsty but watching those guys literally beat the living hell out of each other was amazing.

Even better than the now highly commercial UFC.
Thu 06/10/05 at 00:55
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The guy that made it has a new one out, can't remember the name but it's set in Australia.
Thu 06/10/05 at 00:53
Regular
Posts: 20,776
Martial Arts fest from Thailand in a similar style to Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan or Jet Li style.

"No Stunt Doubles. No CGI. No Wire Work." It boasts.

I'd noticed it on Play.com while shopping for other items, and it sounded like my sort of thing (being a Bruce Lee nut), so I made the purchase.

First of all, let's clear one thing up - it's got pretty much no plot whatsoever (a failing common to most asian films of this genre), so don't go expecting the matrix here. The matrix offers you, while impressive, clearly computer generated (poorly at times) fight scenes, here we have the real deal. Perhaps the most realistic fights you'll ever see on the big screen.

The actors, all clearly seasoned martial artists, are taking some serious punishment here in the name of film - something western film-makers can only dream of thanks to strict safety laws. No problem for our eastern cousins though. "Hey, how shall we do this scene where this guy has a fridge smashed into his face?" "How about we just smash a fridge into his face?" "Works for me - we'll pay him time and a half for today."

The acting isn't completely terrible in between fight scenes, and it managed to keep my interest well enough. If you're into your into martial arts films, most of us are, and you value realism above anything else, you ought not to miss this.

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