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I was interested in Snow, but it seems the game has been cancelled by 2K games due to the controversy over 'Hot Coffee'. Actually 'limp hanky' might've been a better name considering how a bit of sexually representative material could be unlocked via an action replay/a mod for the PC version.
Who cares? Various games have provided humorous takes on sex, from the ads in the Duke Nukem games to the silly Leisure Suit Larry collection of mini games.
So who cares? Well, people who need to take a long hard look at 18-rated movies, age old books and other mature forms of expression and realise that anything that features in an 18 (or indeed 16+) rated game really pales into insignificance.
Games are the current scapegoat because a lot of people still think they are only for kids. Top of the misguided fury pile is 2K Games, their offices have been attacked by arsonists, they've been hit by lawsuits and had their games taken off the shelves and rebranded/classified 'Adults Only' before making a return to the charts.
All of this over a minigame that needed the user to make changes to the game via peripherals or 'mods' that weren't sanctioned or approved by 2K games. So if someone makes a rude mod for one of Bethesda's games that means that Bethesda are somehow liable? Hardly.
Of course the difference is that 2K and Rockstar allowed the games to ship with the offending code hidden away but still that extra content required a fair bit of effort from the purchaser to unlock it.
So the grand ruling finally comes in that 2K are only liable for future infractions of the law and it seems they've managed to do that with another title (although the reclassification has not moved the game into the AO region of titles) so it's possible that they could be liable for a very large (stupidly large) fine.
And yet we have what amounts to minor sexual content in games like Fable and Fahrenheit and nobody is kicking up a fuss about Leisure Suit Larry so why should people make such a fuss about a leftover piece of code, that is not accessible without changing the game's code via non-sanctioned mods/peripherals, for a minigame that involves suggestive positions between two characters who still have their clothes on?
The answer is that non-gamers haven't got a clue so they take for granted what their media tells them about the 'ooo booga-booo nasty child corrupting games with clearly marked age ratings'. Oh and let's not forget the kid who 'owned' a copy of Manhunt then went on to kill another child. Exceeeeeeeeeept it was the kid who was murdered that owned the game and the Daily Mail are, as usual, a sack of crap who need to be forced into printing retaractions in big letters on the front page of their 'only fit for your budgie' fiction rag of race hate.
Quite frankly it's madness and it has stirred up the ignorant into a kneejerk mentality that could hinder the creative decisions of developers. Recently Eidos had to change future editions of it's new Tomb Raider game because some eagle-eyed oddball noticed that some dancer had been given... wait for it... a nipple!
I know, it's shocking, it's like the Venus de Milo never existed or that it is hidden away at the back of some seedy shop in Soho.
Now the industry has another problem, not only do they have to watch out that the don't leave a stray nipple in a game destined for a low age rating (Rare don't put any tetes on your pinata cows for godsake!) but they have to deal with the people who turn up after minor 'sex' things in games cause a stir.
That's right, there was a 'sex in games' conference held recently. No doubt filled with people who make all those awful mobile phone games which are rubbish but sell because the player can strip some model or get some sex positions shown if you complete 50 lines in Tetris or some other vapid crap.
So now the industry is potentially on a tightrope between the extreme nutters going off about stray nipples and the tacky no-talent sex peddlers who are content to make a quick buck off plagarised classic games that incorporate breasts.
In short: The industry has a publicity problem and the general public are idiots.
Perhaps we may even find a time where European games are the most decently gory and sexually explicit (in a good and effective way like Fahrenheit and Condemned) and that the NTSC fellows are importing the PAL versions because at-least they can get non-green blood when they shoot some criminal in GTA 5!
Thankfully with partly European developers like Ubisoft and Eidos we may see PAL territories getting the releases first with the NTSC territories getting the edited versions that don't fully reflect the designers/developers intentions.
Land of the free? Not if you're a games developer. ;)
Food for thought.
Who cares? Various games have provided humorous takes on sex, from the ads in the Duke Nukem games to the silly Leisure Suit Larry collection of mini games.
So who cares? Well, people who need to take a long hard look at 18-rated movies, age old books and other mature forms of expression and realise that anything that features in an 18 (or indeed 16+) rated game really pales into insignificance.
Games are the current scapegoat because a lot of people still think they are only for kids. Top of the misguided fury pile is 2K Games, their offices have been attacked by arsonists, they've been hit by lawsuits and had their games taken off the shelves and rebranded/classified 'Adults Only' before making a return to the charts.
All of this over a minigame that needed the user to make changes to the game via peripherals or 'mods' that weren't sanctioned or approved by 2K games. So if someone makes a rude mod for one of Bethesda's games that means that Bethesda are somehow liable? Hardly.
Of course the difference is that 2K and Rockstar allowed the games to ship with the offending code hidden away but still that extra content required a fair bit of effort from the purchaser to unlock it.
So the grand ruling finally comes in that 2K are only liable for future infractions of the law and it seems they've managed to do that with another title (although the reclassification has not moved the game into the AO region of titles) so it's possible that they could be liable for a very large (stupidly large) fine.
And yet we have what amounts to minor sexual content in games like Fable and Fahrenheit and nobody is kicking up a fuss about Leisure Suit Larry so why should people make such a fuss about a leftover piece of code, that is not accessible without changing the game's code via non-sanctioned mods/peripherals, for a minigame that involves suggestive positions between two characters who still have their clothes on?
The answer is that non-gamers haven't got a clue so they take for granted what their media tells them about the 'ooo booga-booo nasty child corrupting games with clearly marked age ratings'. Oh and let's not forget the kid who 'owned' a copy of Manhunt then went on to kill another child. Exceeeeeeeeeept it was the kid who was murdered that owned the game and the Daily Mail are, as usual, a sack of crap who need to be forced into printing retaractions in big letters on the front page of their 'only fit for your budgie' fiction rag of race hate.
Quite frankly it's madness and it has stirred up the ignorant into a kneejerk mentality that could hinder the creative decisions of developers. Recently Eidos had to change future editions of it's new Tomb Raider game because some eagle-eyed oddball noticed that some dancer had been given... wait for it... a nipple!
I know, it's shocking, it's like the Venus de Milo never existed or that it is hidden away at the back of some seedy shop in Soho.
Now the industry has another problem, not only do they have to watch out that the don't leave a stray nipple in a game destined for a low age rating (Rare don't put any tetes on your pinata cows for godsake!) but they have to deal with the people who turn up after minor 'sex' things in games cause a stir.
That's right, there was a 'sex in games' conference held recently. No doubt filled with people who make all those awful mobile phone games which are rubbish but sell because the player can strip some model or get some sex positions shown if you complete 50 lines in Tetris or some other vapid crap.
So now the industry is potentially on a tightrope between the extreme nutters going off about stray nipples and the tacky no-talent sex peddlers who are content to make a quick buck off plagarised classic games that incorporate breasts.
In short: The industry has a publicity problem and the general public are idiots.
Perhaps we may even find a time where European games are the most decently gory and sexually explicit (in a good and effective way like Fahrenheit and Condemned) and that the NTSC fellows are importing the PAL versions because at-least they can get non-green blood when they shoot some criminal in GTA 5!
Thankfully with partly European developers like Ubisoft and Eidos we may see PAL territories getting the releases first with the NTSC territories getting the edited versions that don't fully reflect the designers/developers intentions.
Land of the free? Not if you're a games developer. ;)
Food for thought.
Haha, my mother saw me doing the exact same thing except she found the concept of torching people disturbing and scolded me.
Good times.
Good times.
When me and a friend were burning people in Timesplitters 2 my gran overheard it and thought we were watching porn.
Hot coffee was great.
Oh damn, I really thought Edge would have called by now. :(
I was interested in Snow, but it seems the game has been cancelled by 2K games due to the controversy over 'Hot Coffee'. Actually 'limp hanky' might've been a better name considering how a bit of sexually representative material could be unlocked via an action replay/a mod for the PC version.
Who cares? Various games have provided humorous takes on sex, from the ads in the Duke Nukem games to the silly Leisure Suit Larry collection of mini games.
So who cares? Well, people who need to take a long hard look at 18-rated movies, age old books and other mature forms of expression and realise that anything that features in an 18 (or indeed 16+) rated game really pales into insignificance.
Games are the current scapegoat because a lot of people still think they are only for kids. Top of the misguided fury pile is 2K Games, their offices have been attacked by arsonists, they've been hit by lawsuits and had their games taken off the shelves and rebranded/classified 'Adults Only' before making a return to the charts.
All of this over a minigame that needed the user to make changes to the game via peripherals or 'mods' that weren't sanctioned or approved by 2K games. So if someone makes a rude mod for one of Bethesda's games that means that Bethesda are somehow liable? Hardly.
Of course the difference is that 2K and Rockstar allowed the games to ship with the offending code hidden away but still that extra content required a fair bit of effort from the purchaser to unlock it.
So the grand ruling finally comes in that 2K are only liable for future infractions of the law and it seems they've managed to do that with another title (although the reclassification has not moved the game into the AO region of titles) so it's possible that they could be liable for a very large (stupidly large) fine.
And yet we have what amounts to minor sexual content in games like Fable and Fahrenheit and nobody is kicking up a fuss about Leisure Suit Larry so why should people make such a fuss about a leftover piece of code, that is not accessible without changing the game's code via non-sanctioned mods/peripherals, for a minigame that involves suggestive positions between two characters who still have their clothes on?
The answer is that non-gamers haven't got a clue so they take for granted what their media tells them about the 'ooo booga-booo nasty child corrupting games with clearly marked age ratings'. Oh and let's not forget the kid who 'owned' a copy of Manhunt then went on to kill another child. Exceeeeeeeeeept it was the kid who was murdered that owned the game and the Daily Mail are, as usual, a sack of crap who need to be forced into printing retaractions in big letters on the front page of their 'only fit for your budgie' fiction rag of race hate.
Quite frankly it's madness and it has stirred up the ignorant into a kneejerk mentality that could hinder the creative decisions of developers. Recently Eidos had to change future editions of it's new Tomb Raider game because some eagle-eyed oddball noticed that some dancer had been given... wait for it... a nipple!
I know, it's shocking, it's like the Venus de Milo never existed or that it is hidden away at the back of some seedy shop in Soho.
Now the industry has another problem, not only do they have to watch out that the don't leave a stray nipple in a game destined for a low age rating (Rare don't put any tetes on your pinata cows for godsake!) but they have to deal with the people who turn up after minor 'sex' things in games cause a stir.
That's right, there was a 'sex in games' conference held recently. No doubt filled with people who make all those awful mobile phone games which are rubbish but sell because the player can strip some model or get some sex positions shown if you complete 50 lines in Tetris or some other vapid crap.
So now the industry is potentially on a tightrope between the extreme nutters going off about stray nipples and the tacky no-talent sex peddlers who are content to make a quick buck off plagarised classic games that incorporate breasts.
In short: The industry has a publicity problem and the general public are idiots.
Perhaps we may even find a time where European games are the most decently gory and sexually explicit (in a good and effective way like Fahrenheit and Condemned) and that the NTSC fellows are importing the PAL versions because at-least they can get non-green blood when they shoot some criminal in GTA 5!
Thankfully with partly European developers like Ubisoft and Eidos we may see PAL territories getting the releases first with the NTSC territories getting the edited versions that don't fully reflect the designers/developers intentions.
Land of the free? Not if you're a games developer. ;)
Food for thought.
Who cares? Various games have provided humorous takes on sex, from the ads in the Duke Nukem games to the silly Leisure Suit Larry collection of mini games.
So who cares? Well, people who need to take a long hard look at 18-rated movies, age old books and other mature forms of expression and realise that anything that features in an 18 (or indeed 16+) rated game really pales into insignificance.
Games are the current scapegoat because a lot of people still think they are only for kids. Top of the misguided fury pile is 2K Games, their offices have been attacked by arsonists, they've been hit by lawsuits and had their games taken off the shelves and rebranded/classified 'Adults Only' before making a return to the charts.
All of this over a minigame that needed the user to make changes to the game via peripherals or 'mods' that weren't sanctioned or approved by 2K games. So if someone makes a rude mod for one of Bethesda's games that means that Bethesda are somehow liable? Hardly.
Of course the difference is that 2K and Rockstar allowed the games to ship with the offending code hidden away but still that extra content required a fair bit of effort from the purchaser to unlock it.
So the grand ruling finally comes in that 2K are only liable for future infractions of the law and it seems they've managed to do that with another title (although the reclassification has not moved the game into the AO region of titles) so it's possible that they could be liable for a very large (stupidly large) fine.
And yet we have what amounts to minor sexual content in games like Fable and Fahrenheit and nobody is kicking up a fuss about Leisure Suit Larry so why should people make such a fuss about a leftover piece of code, that is not accessible without changing the game's code via non-sanctioned mods/peripherals, for a minigame that involves suggestive positions between two characters who still have their clothes on?
The answer is that non-gamers haven't got a clue so they take for granted what their media tells them about the 'ooo booga-booo nasty child corrupting games with clearly marked age ratings'. Oh and let's not forget the kid who 'owned' a copy of Manhunt then went on to kill another child. Exceeeeeeeeeept it was the kid who was murdered that owned the game and the Daily Mail are, as usual, a sack of crap who need to be forced into printing retaractions in big letters on the front page of their 'only fit for your budgie' fiction rag of race hate.
Quite frankly it's madness and it has stirred up the ignorant into a kneejerk mentality that could hinder the creative decisions of developers. Recently Eidos had to change future editions of it's new Tomb Raider game because some eagle-eyed oddball noticed that some dancer had been given... wait for it... a nipple!
I know, it's shocking, it's like the Venus de Milo never existed or that it is hidden away at the back of some seedy shop in Soho.
Now the industry has another problem, not only do they have to watch out that the don't leave a stray nipple in a game destined for a low age rating (Rare don't put any tetes on your pinata cows for godsake!) but they have to deal with the people who turn up after minor 'sex' things in games cause a stir.
That's right, there was a 'sex in games' conference held recently. No doubt filled with people who make all those awful mobile phone games which are rubbish but sell because the player can strip some model or get some sex positions shown if you complete 50 lines in Tetris or some other vapid crap.
So now the industry is potentially on a tightrope between the extreme nutters going off about stray nipples and the tacky no-talent sex peddlers who are content to make a quick buck off plagarised classic games that incorporate breasts.
In short: The industry has a publicity problem and the general public are idiots.
Perhaps we may even find a time where European games are the most decently gory and sexually explicit (in a good and effective way like Fahrenheit and Condemned) and that the NTSC fellows are importing the PAL versions because at-least they can get non-green blood when they shoot some criminal in GTA 5!
Thankfully with partly European developers like Ubisoft and Eidos we may see PAL territories getting the releases first with the NTSC territories getting the edited versions that don't fully reflect the designers/developers intentions.
Land of the free? Not if you're a games developer. ;)
Food for thought.