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Wed 30/05/01 at 13:27
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I've noticed a trend lately of redoing movies for the "new" audience.
Be it tv shows (Charlie's Angels, The Fugitive etc) and also with movies.
We've had Get Carter (and ANYONE that loves films knows why this was a bad move and doomed to failure).
They're remaking Mean Machine as well as a slew of others.

Why not just re-release the original movies and let us see them on a big screen?
I was too young to watch Jaws at the cinema when it came out, I've never experienced it with Dolby Digital stereo shaking my seat.
Same with other classic movies, Star Wars was re-released and did massive business, why not others?

I would love to see things like The Great Escape, Zulu, The Italian Job, Long Good Friday and so many more up there in 35mm glory.

There's no need to remake classic movies, just let us see them in their original format please.
Thu 31/05/01 at 09:25
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We are on the same page Funk.

Most aren't even reading the same book.
Wed 30/05/01 at 22:43
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Too bloomin right goaty!

I totally agree
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:52
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Pretty much yeah.

I watched the Se7en DVD with the commentary from Fincher, Pitt, Freeman and Mike DeLuca (studio head evil demon-man).

They were saying that the studio refused to do the original "head in a box" ending and rewrote it so that John Doe was climbing up the outside of the building whilst the wife was in the shower and Pitt racing across town to save her.

Cliche-laden foulness once more rears it head.

It took Fincher, Pitt and Freeman to refuse to continue unless they redid the original script ending.

Why? "Because the audience doesnt want to feel down after a movie"

Really?
Well, I'm the audience and I appreciate a good story with an ending that WILL make me think, WILL stir my heart and head.
I dont want to sit down and turn to the next person and say "Well, by the end that guy will love her, she will ultimately succumb to his charm and everyone will be shiny happy"

Jesus, they treat us like morons.
Mind you...Pearl Harbour?
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:47
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So the general idea behind Hollywood remakes is take some little foreign film and completely change it to suit an American audience, including giving it a happy ending and adding a love interest.
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:29
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Meka_Dragon wrote:
> Goatboy wrote:
> Keifer Sutherland, Jeff Bridges and Nancy
> Travis.

It was so
> bad.

Yeah I've seen it.

I hadn't
> seen the original, and knew not of it's existance. So how does the
> story differ from the remake, if you don't mind saying!

****SPOILER WARNING******


Ok.
In the original, there is no waitress girlfriend.
The character finds the villain, drinks the coffee and wakes up inside the coffin, buried deep in a garden of the summer house.
He flicks a lighter on, scratches at the lid and screams.

You then see the villiain's family sitting on-top having a picnic.
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:16
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pb wrote:

>Desperado happens to be one of
> my favorite films, despite the lack of storyline.

You don't need a good story line when you have a guitar case full of guns and Salma Hayek on your arm.
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:13
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Desperado was kind of a half remake, half continuation of the story. It went together, just about, if you follow the characters from the first film, two of them even appear at the end in Desperado, as the same characters they played in El Mariachi.

In a way it was a remake, as it was a chance to do a similar story in a huge budget, but it wasn't a 'true' remake, as the storyline was different.

Also, they are both on one DVD with loads of extras. Definately a pack worth getting and Desperado happens to be one of my favorite films, despite the lack of storyline.
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:11
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Goatboy wrote:
> Keifer Sutherland, Jeff Bridges and Nancy Travis.

It was so
> bad.

Yeah I've seen it.

I hadn't seen the original, and knew not of it's existance. So how does the story differ from the remake, if you don't mind saying!

Another remake of a classic is
> "Nightwatch".
Another Dutch movie that got absorbed and
> lost all meaning in translation.

Nightwatch? Did the remake star Ewan McGregor?
Wed 30/05/01 at 14:03
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Keifer Sutherland, Jeff Bridges and Nancy Travis.

It was so bad.

Another remake of a classic is "Nightwatch".
Another Dutch movie that got absorbed and lost all meaning in translation.
Wed 30/05/01 at 13:50
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Goatboy wrote:
> Yeah, but then you had George Sluzier remaking The Vanishing for
> Hollywood.

The original is bleak, claustrophobic and intense. A
> fantastic little Dutch thriller.
But he redid it for Hollywood and
> gave it a happy ending complete with running through the woods
> finale.

Awful,awful grabbing at the money bags there.

'The Vanishing' the name rings a bell. Who was in the remake?

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