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Thought that I’d pose this question here after arguing loudly about the topic in the pub Saturday night, the question being ‘If introducing an extra official/s into Football is the way to go, in an attempt to remove some of the more scandalous decisions made by Referees and Referees Assistants’ (how PC).
It seems that not a week can go by during the footballing calendar without some sort of controversy sparking endless debate by the media pundits. Whether it’s a goal that shouldn’t have been or one that should, the managerial gripes about ‘unfair decisions’ are taking over as the talking points of the beautiful game. These refereeing faux pas can be quite damaging to a team in certain positions, take Man City for example. I’m not saying that they wouldn’t still have been relegated, but it could be argued that things would have worked out differently if the right decision had of been made in certain situations by the man in charge. They did have some outstandingly bad decisions go against them and when your fighting for a Premiership place, it’s easy to see how they might feel hard done by. (I’m not a City fan btw)
The third eye option has been more or less quashed due to the time it would take to go upstairs to a replay ref., though it could be used in certain situations with good effect. It would only take a few seconds to get an answer, how much time is wasted during a game by players surrounding the ref after a contentious decision?
A more feasible option could be the addition of extra officials to a game, either on the field or on the touchline. Ice Hockey in the US for example recently introduced two referees for a game, which has worked really well for this sport at least. The NHL also uses the replay official for debatable goals; it only takes a minute to come to the right decision that is after all, what we all want (I think). Would this approach work for our beloved association football?
Extra referee’s assistants may help as well, perhaps not having to leg it up and down the side of a field for ninety odd minutes will help them to stay in the right place to spot key incidents in a game, as well as the off the ball action that goes on behind the referees back. These are picked up on video usually and players may still be disciplined by the F.A., but if they should be off the field at the time of the foul, not one month down the line when the ban takes effect. Looking at another yank sport, American Football uses a host of striped overseers to guarantee fair play, yes I know it’s a completely different game, but if a player commits an infraction in this sport then it is almost always spotted and punished accordingly.
So what do people think then? From said inebriated discussion two camps emerged. The ‘That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard’ faculty, against the ‘Well, the powers that be in Football have to do something’ clan. I fall into the latter of these two groups. Football has seen changes tried and implemented before, how about one that rids us of the post game banter about how the ‘Referee’s a w**ker’
It seems that not a week can go by during the footballing calendar without some sort of controversy sparking endless debate by the media pundits. Whether it’s a goal that shouldn’t have been or one that should, the managerial gripes about ‘unfair decisions’ are taking over as the talking points of the beautiful game. These refereeing faux pas can be quite damaging to a team in certain positions, take Man City for example. I’m not saying that they wouldn’t still have been relegated, but it could be argued that things would have worked out differently if the right decision had of been made in certain situations by the man in charge. They did have some outstandingly bad decisions go against them and when your fighting for a Premiership place, it’s easy to see how they might feel hard done by. (I’m not a City fan btw)
The third eye option has been more or less quashed due to the time it would take to go upstairs to a replay ref., though it could be used in certain situations with good effect. It would only take a few seconds to get an answer, how much time is wasted during a game by players surrounding the ref after a contentious decision?
A more feasible option could be the addition of extra officials to a game, either on the field or on the touchline. Ice Hockey in the US for example recently introduced two referees for a game, which has worked really well for this sport at least. The NHL also uses the replay official for debatable goals; it only takes a minute to come to the right decision that is after all, what we all want (I think). Would this approach work for our beloved association football?
Extra referee’s assistants may help as well, perhaps not having to leg it up and down the side of a field for ninety odd minutes will help them to stay in the right place to spot key incidents in a game, as well as the off the ball action that goes on behind the referees back. These are picked up on video usually and players may still be disciplined by the F.A., but if they should be off the field at the time of the foul, not one month down the line when the ban takes effect. Looking at another yank sport, American Football uses a host of striped overseers to guarantee fair play, yes I know it’s a completely different game, but if a player commits an infraction in this sport then it is almost always spotted and punished accordingly.
So what do people think then? From said inebriated discussion two camps emerged. The ‘That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard’ faculty, against the ‘Well, the powers that be in Football have to do something’ clan. I fall into the latter of these two groups. Football has seen changes tried and implemented before, how about one that rids us of the post game banter about how the ‘Referee’s a w**ker’
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Thought that I’d pose this question here after arguing loudly about the topic in the pub Saturday night, the question being ‘If introducing an extra official/s into Football is the way to go, in an attempt to remove some of the more scandalous decisions made by Referees and Referees Assistants’ (how PC).
It seems that not a week can go by during the footballing calendar without some sort of controversy sparking endless debate by the media pundits. Whether it’s a goal that shouldn’t have been or one that should, the managerial gripes about ‘unfair decisions’ are taking over as the talking points of the beautiful game. These refereeing faux pas can be quite damaging to a team in certain positions, take Man City for example. I’m not saying that they wouldn’t still have been relegated, but it could be argued that things would have worked out differently if the right decision had of been made in certain situations by the man in charge. They did have some outstandingly bad decisions go against them and when your fighting for a Premiership place, it’s easy to see how they might feel hard done by. (I’m not a City fan btw)
The third eye option has been more or less quashed due to the time it would take to go upstairs to a replay ref., though it could be used in certain situations with good effect. It would only take a few seconds to get an answer, how much time is wasted during a game by players surrounding the ref after a contentious decision?
A more feasible option could be the addition of extra officials to a game, either on the field or on the touchline. Ice Hockey in the US for example recently introduced two referees for a game, which has worked really well for this sport at least. The NHL also uses the replay official for debatable goals; it only takes a minute to come to the right decision that is after all, what we all want (I think). Would this approach work for our beloved association football?
Extra referee’s assistants may help as well, perhaps not having to leg it up and down the side of a field for ninety odd minutes will help them to stay in the right place to spot key incidents in a game, as well as the off the ball action that goes on behind the referees back. These are picked up on video usually and players may still be disciplined by the F.A., but if they should be off the field at the time of the foul, not one month down the line when the ban takes effect. Looking at another yank sport, American Football uses a host of striped overseers to guarantee fair play, yes I know it’s a completely different game, but if a player commits an infraction in this sport then it is almost always spotted and punished accordingly.
So what do people think then? From said inebriated discussion two camps emerged. The ‘That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard’ faculty, against the ‘Well, the powers that be in Football have to do something’ clan. I fall into the latter of these two groups. Football has seen changes tried and implemented before, how about one that rids us of the post game banter about how the ‘Referee’s a w**ker’
It seems that not a week can go by during the footballing calendar without some sort of controversy sparking endless debate by the media pundits. Whether it’s a goal that shouldn’t have been or one that should, the managerial gripes about ‘unfair decisions’ are taking over as the talking points of the beautiful game. These refereeing faux pas can be quite damaging to a team in certain positions, take Man City for example. I’m not saying that they wouldn’t still have been relegated, but it could be argued that things would have worked out differently if the right decision had of been made in certain situations by the man in charge. They did have some outstandingly bad decisions go against them and when your fighting for a Premiership place, it’s easy to see how they might feel hard done by. (I’m not a City fan btw)
The third eye option has been more or less quashed due to the time it would take to go upstairs to a replay ref., though it could be used in certain situations with good effect. It would only take a few seconds to get an answer, how much time is wasted during a game by players surrounding the ref after a contentious decision?
A more feasible option could be the addition of extra officials to a game, either on the field or on the touchline. Ice Hockey in the US for example recently introduced two referees for a game, which has worked really well for this sport at least. The NHL also uses the replay official for debatable goals; it only takes a minute to come to the right decision that is after all, what we all want (I think). Would this approach work for our beloved association football?
Extra referee’s assistants may help as well, perhaps not having to leg it up and down the side of a field for ninety odd minutes will help them to stay in the right place to spot key incidents in a game, as well as the off the ball action that goes on behind the referees back. These are picked up on video usually and players may still be disciplined by the F.A., but if they should be off the field at the time of the foul, not one month down the line when the ban takes effect. Looking at another yank sport, American Football uses a host of striped overseers to guarantee fair play, yes I know it’s a completely different game, but if a player commits an infraction in this sport then it is almost always spotted and punished accordingly.
So what do people think then? From said inebriated discussion two camps emerged. The ‘That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard’ faculty, against the ‘Well, the powers that be in Football have to do something’ clan. I fall into the latter of these two groups. Football has seen changes tried and implemented before, how about one that rids us of the post game banter about how the ‘Referee’s a w**ker’
Nah, introducing extra officials into the game will slow the pace of the game down and make it less exciting. Decisions have to be made on the spot. It alll adds up to the drama that is football. Okay the decision may not allways go in favour of your team, but hey thats life.
It might well slow the pace down which is why any change would be tested first, as the pass back rule was. Personally I can’t see how a couple of extra assistants on either sideline watching areas of the pitch that the referee may not have a clear view of, will effect the pace of the game. I wouldn’t of minded if another set of eyes was around for the infamous Hand of God debacle…..
I still swear blind that ball went in of Maradonnas curly napper. Referees have a tough job and I think they try their best and we should accept their decisions. There is a panel set-up to monitor refs and if they are deemed not good enough they are demoted to lesser rated matches . They could become professional refs which would improve fitness and maybe have one ref for each half of the pitch but that will not make any difference to tight decisions. If the likes of Ron Atkinson need three looks at a replay to give us an opinion of "Well I think there could have been maybe some marginal contact" what hope is there for the referees. If the Ref had an ear-piece it would only take ten seconds for a third eye to tell him what decision to give , and also this would take the pressure of the ref because the person acting as the third eye would be answerable to any wrong decisions. It is good if used properly but I don`t mind just accepting it as it is.
Hmmm, the only way the ball hit the mighty midgets head is if he had hair like Marge Simpson! The only problem I can see with the third eye is what level of football you enforce it to? Just Premiership (or European equivalents) plus Internationals seems about right to me, but then what about cup games and at what stage would it be feasible to introduce it? It’s a bit of a nightmare really, I can see why they avoid it.
With me being Scottish I wouldn`t mind them introducing it in our S P L because we are always experimenting with league structure and what have we to lose. We could also introduce it in to the English equivelant of the S P L which is the Nationwide league .I wasn`t keen on the rule of making players retreat another ten yards at free-kicks for encroaching but think the third eye has more to offer the game. They could banish the off-side law because when someone like Kanoute or Henry is playing it can be a long afternoon for one Referee. Getting rid off off-sides would make for a more exciting game with end to end football but more running for one ref.The back pass rule and bookings for time wasting has kept the game flowing and shows they can change things to benefit the game.
belly wrote:
> They could banish the off-side law because when someone
like Kanoute or Henry is playing it can be a long afternoon for one Referee.
Ban the offside rule; I hope your joking about that!!! I suppose if you wanted the game to degenerate into playground ‘scrum football’, with a knot of players running around like maniacs, then dropping offside is the way to go. Sounds a bit Jimmy Hill if you ask me.
But yes, try these things out in the less prestigious divisions somewhere first to see how it goes for a season, then weigh up the merits and decide.
> They could banish the off-side law because when someone
like Kanoute or Henry is playing it can be a long afternoon for one Referee.
Ban the offside rule; I hope your joking about that!!! I suppose if you wanted the game to degenerate into playground ‘scrum football’, with a knot of players running around like maniacs, then dropping offside is the way to go. Sounds a bit Jimmy Hill if you ask me.
But yes, try these things out in the less prestigious divisions somewhere first to see how it goes for a season, then weigh up the merits and decide.
Insomnia eh, I have extra innings Baseball on C5 to blame for my presence at this godforsaken hour...
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