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I am really interested in getting other people's views, on our government.
I am absolutly gobsmacked at some of the law's and decisions that they make also.
It seems today that crime does pay, the government send such conflicting messages to the criminals of today, yes you may recieve a jail sentence, but let's face it you live in very good conditions, and recieve healthcare, education, paid work, gym, ive even heard of playstations and tv's and fridges been in the cells!!! oh my god!
I just wondered if anyone see's a way of this changing, and how it could be changed.
I often thought "why dont the government run polls through the tv, internet, phone etc on important decisons and let us the public decide"
they say we have a vote, but we vote for others to decide for us, do we not have our own mouth's???
its a very unfair system and i think it needs desperatly changing, god know's what it will be like for the children of the future
xxx
I am absolutly gobsmacked at some of the law's and decisions that they make also.
It seems today that crime does pay, the government send such conflicting messages to the criminals of today, yes you may recieve a jail sentence, but let's face it you live in very good conditions, and recieve healthcare, education, paid work, gym, ive even heard of playstations and tv's and fridges been in the cells!!! oh my god!
I just wondered if anyone see's a way of this changing, and how it could be changed.
I often thought "why dont the government run polls through the tv, internet, phone etc on important decisons and let us the public decide"
they say we have a vote, but we vote for others to decide for us, do we not have our own mouth's???
its a very unfair system and i think it needs desperatly changing, god know's what it will be like for the children of the future
xxx
The law is far too lenient and sentencing needs to be much more harsher in my opinion.
There are too many crimes where a slap on the wrist is all you get and it does nothing to deter reoffending.
I'm all for educating offenders in prison to try and get them a brighter future but people need to pay for their crimes and the current sentencing doesn't do that.
There are too many crimes where a slap on the wrist is all you get and it does nothing to deter reoffending.
I'm all for educating offenders in prison to try and get them a brighter future but people need to pay for their crimes and the current sentencing doesn't do that.
Der Nazi wrote:
I'm no expert on this
> sort of thing... as the Conservatives are (Or at least were) the
> party of law and order, let's hope they win the next General
> Election and implement policies that do better on this!
Heh they'd need luck with that what with the mass of human rights lawyers and the EU government that would no doubt stand in their way
I'm no expert on this
> sort of thing... as the Conservatives are (Or at least were) the
> party of law and order, let's hope they win the next General
> Election and implement policies that do better on this!
Heh they'd need luck with that what with the mass of human rights lawyers and the EU government that would no doubt stand in their way
If we had direct text votes then it would be like the X Factor and just become rediculous.
I agre that prisons are too good. The criminals who are in there probably dont have Playstations and gym membership at home. Why should the tax payer pay for stuff like that? I agree that they should be educated though.
I agre that prisons are too good. The criminals who are in there probably dont have Playstations and gym membership at home. Why should the tax payer pay for stuff like that? I agree that they should be educated though.
And the EU wants prisoners to have the right to vote too; when you get put in one of those places, you lose your freedom, so there's another right you should lose whilst incarcerated, Universal Suffrage.
The prison service also needs more prisons to be built to cope with demans, why they didn't see this coming is beyond me... and then there are these supposedly ever-increasing crim figures. Blame society and a government which isn't, as his Tony-ness promised some years ago, tough on both crime and the causes of crime. Don't ask me what should be done, I'm no expert on this sort of thing... as the Conservatives are (Or at least were) the party of law and order, let's hope they win the next General Election and implement policies that do better on this!
As for the comments on direct democracy; the only country which has a large volume of referenda is Switzerland, and I think these referenda have very low turnout rates, and of course sometimes public opinion isn't exactly the right route to choose, instead of the opnions of supposed experts within government, the committee system, special advisors, inquiries and so on... basically, it's best left for big decisions which are best decided by the public, such as in the past; devolution and less recently, membership of the EEC (Back in 1975), for example.
The prison service also needs more prisons to be built to cope with demans, why they didn't see this coming is beyond me... and then there are these supposedly ever-increasing crim figures. Blame society and a government which isn't, as his Tony-ness promised some years ago, tough on both crime and the causes of crime. Don't ask me what should be done, I'm no expert on this sort of thing... as the Conservatives are (Or at least were) the party of law and order, let's hope they win the next General Election and implement policies that do better on this!
As for the comments on direct democracy; the only country which has a large volume of referenda is Switzerland, and I think these referenda have very low turnout rates, and of course sometimes public opinion isn't exactly the right route to choose, instead of the opnions of supposed experts within government, the committee system, special advisors, inquiries and so on... basically, it's best left for big decisions which are best decided by the public, such as in the past; devolution and less recently, membership of the EEC (Back in 1975), for example.
thebeautyqueen wrote:
> It seems today that crime does pay, the government send such
> conflicting messages to the criminals of today, yes you may
> recieve a jail sentence, but let's face it you live in very good
> conditions
Thats odd because i swear i heard a report a little while ago condemning the living conditions in jails as being appalling.
Dont believe all you read. Prison still isn't a fun place to be, society isn't on the brink of collapse because some kids wear hoods and the papers will always magnify any problem by a 1000% if they think they can get away with it.
> It seems today that crime does pay, the government send such
> conflicting messages to the criminals of today, yes you may
> recieve a jail sentence, but let's face it you live in very good
> conditions
Thats odd because i swear i heard a report a little while ago condemning the living conditions in jails as being appalling.
Dont believe all you read. Prison still isn't a fun place to be, society isn't on the brink of collapse because some kids wear hoods and the papers will always magnify any problem by a 1000% if they think they can get away with it.
thebeautyqueen wrote:
> I just wondered if anyone see's a way of this changing, and how
> it could be changed.
> I often thought "why dont the government run polls through
> the tv, internet, phone etc on important decisons and let us the
> public decide"
> they say we have a vote, but we vote for others to decide for
> us, do we not have our own mouth's???
Direct democracy, which is where you put decisions to the public in the form of referendums, is what you're thinking of but it has many negative features. Fair enough that everyone gets a vote and a fair say on decisions but decision making will be a lot slower and it's expensive to implement. And also the public often won't be interested and probably won't understand the actual issue and so unlike the MPs we elect, who are professional decision makers, won't make an informed choice. A good thing about it is that the public should get educated and more involved in politics and so participation (voter turnout) should increase, but the information provided to the public to pursuade them to vote can be, and probably always would be, biased. Also it's likely to be dumbed-down so again the actual issue will be hidden. We can't make an informed decision so it should be left to the professional decision makers who we elect in our parliamentary democracy.
Also if direct democracy was implemented who would get the vote in referenda? Would you let criminals vote on issues? And what would you do if an issue couldn't just be put down to a simple yes/no answer, for example if we could have a referendum on the death penalty it couldn't just come down to a yes/no vote.
> its a very unfair system and i think it needs desperatly
> changing, god know's what it will be like for the children of
> the future
I think there are many more advantages to our current system than any other, I won't go into it because you'll all probably get bored with the rantings of a politics student. I do think the way we elect our representatives should be changed, but I certainly wouldn't change our parliamentary democracy to anything else.
> I just wondered if anyone see's a way of this changing, and how
> it could be changed.
> I often thought "why dont the government run polls through
> the tv, internet, phone etc on important decisons and let us the
> public decide"
> they say we have a vote, but we vote for others to decide for
> us, do we not have our own mouth's???
Direct democracy, which is where you put decisions to the public in the form of referendums, is what you're thinking of but it has many negative features. Fair enough that everyone gets a vote and a fair say on decisions but decision making will be a lot slower and it's expensive to implement. And also the public often won't be interested and probably won't understand the actual issue and so unlike the MPs we elect, who are professional decision makers, won't make an informed choice. A good thing about it is that the public should get educated and more involved in politics and so participation (voter turnout) should increase, but the information provided to the public to pursuade them to vote can be, and probably always would be, biased. Also it's likely to be dumbed-down so again the actual issue will be hidden. We can't make an informed decision so it should be left to the professional decision makers who we elect in our parliamentary democracy.
Also if direct democracy was implemented who would get the vote in referenda? Would you let criminals vote on issues? And what would you do if an issue couldn't just be put down to a simple yes/no answer, for example if we could have a referendum on the death penalty it couldn't just come down to a yes/no vote.
> its a very unfair system and i think it needs desperatly
> changing, god know's what it will be like for the children of
> the future
I think there are many more advantages to our current system than any other, I won't go into it because you'll all probably get bored with the rantings of a politics student. I do think the way we elect our representatives should be changed, but I certainly wouldn't change our parliamentary democracy to anything else.
I am really interested in getting other people's views, on our government.
I am absolutly gobsmacked at some of the law's and decisions that they make also.
It seems today that crime does pay, the government send such conflicting messages to the criminals of today, yes you may recieve a jail sentence, but let's face it you live in very good conditions, and recieve healthcare, education, paid work, gym, ive even heard of playstations and tv's and fridges been in the cells!!! oh my god!
I just wondered if anyone see's a way of this changing, and how it could be changed.
I often thought "why dont the government run polls through the tv, internet, phone etc on important decisons and let us the public decide"
they say we have a vote, but we vote for others to decide for us, do we not have our own mouth's???
its a very unfair system and i think it needs desperatly changing, god know's what it will be like for the children of the future
xxx
I am absolutly gobsmacked at some of the law's and decisions that they make also.
It seems today that crime does pay, the government send such conflicting messages to the criminals of today, yes you may recieve a jail sentence, but let's face it you live in very good conditions, and recieve healthcare, education, paid work, gym, ive even heard of playstations and tv's and fridges been in the cells!!! oh my god!
I just wondered if anyone see's a way of this changing, and how it could be changed.
I often thought "why dont the government run polls through the tv, internet, phone etc on important decisons and let us the public decide"
they say we have a vote, but we vote for others to decide for us, do we not have our own mouth's???
its a very unfair system and i think it needs desperatly changing, god know's what it will be like for the children of the future
xxx