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"Alternative to iFrames"

Is it possible to target a div much like you'd target an iframe?

If so, how?

Tyla wrote:
iFrames are M$ propriotry tags, and
> unreliable in their use. Simple Div with the overflow set to scroll
> has exactly the same effect, more accessible and has more control
> that relying on iFrames

ok, so how would i go about getting pages to load into the div space?
obviously i'd need the "iframe" contents to change.

i'm new to CSS and having a few teething troubles i'm afraid.
i've got the site i'm doing layed out and working using an iframe with a stylesheet setting it to 75% opacity so you can still see the background image behind it. trouble is, it really plods when you scroll the iframe in Firefox, whereas IE has no problems with it.
i'm assuming it's just down to the rendering engine, but i'd like to make it smoother for FF users (like me).

i bet there's a FAR better way of getting the snazzy opacity effect that i don't know about isn't there?

Tyla wrote:
> Very_Metal wrote:
> there are other ways to simulate iframes, but from what i gather
> from
> a little bit of googling, iframes have better support across the
> browser board.
>
> And you found this out where?

Very_Metal wrote:
"what i gather from a little bit of googling"

it was written on one of the pages i was reading with a view to emulating iframes using CSS.. which turned out to be a bit beyond me for the time being :(

Damarus wrote:
> So in otherwords, you're saying that I may as well link to a whole new
> page instead of changing one part of it?

Not really as all your doing is changing the content of a DOM object within the browser, just the same as swapping PHP included in effect which would happen without a page refresh/reload.

So in otherwords, you're saying that I may as well link to a whole new page instead of changing one part of it?

Very_Metal wrote:
> there are other ways to simulate iframes, but from what i gather from
> a little bit of googling, iframes have better support across the
> browser board.

And you found this out where? iFrames are M$ propriotry tags, and unreliable in their use. Simple Div with the overflow set to scroll has exactly the same effect, more accessible and has more control that relying on iFrames

Main problem is that there really isn't anything else that acts like frames without being frames....

I mean, you can simulate it with php include and names.. But not really.

there are other ways to simulate iframes, but from what i gather from a little bit of googling, iframes have better support across the browser board.

i'm gonna try the div naming/linking though as i'd rather avoid frames as well.

Umm... link = "#?=whatever" ?

Yes, but how would I get it to change include file if I click a new link in the menu?

(Or use ?php include(); ?)