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Hi
Me again OK on Freeola web space we get CGI support, what would I use it for? how easy is it to use? and is PHP better than C+? perl or ASP ? I have some knowledge of building web sites, but have only used good old fashioned HTML.
I use Frontpage 2000 to build sites and tweak some of the finer points in notepad. I would like to add things like a guestbook and a counter that run on CGI on our own web space within freeola so that we do not have all those pop up ads that you get when you go to a bravenet guestbook for example..
Any advice? whats good? whats hot? and whats not? what should I try and what should I avoid?
I did read that once I upload in to the CGI folder I need to change perrmisions? whats that all about then? am sure it will make more sense when I actually try it but would like a bit of help / advice with my first attempt at it.
Kind Regards
Kev
Me again OK on Freeola web space we get CGI support, what would I use it for? how easy is it to use? and is PHP better than C+? perl or ASP ? I have some knowledge of building web sites, but have only used good old fashioned HTML.
I use Frontpage 2000 to build sites and tweak some of the finer points in notepad. I would like to add things like a guestbook and a counter that run on CGI on our own web space within freeola so that we do not have all those pop up ads that you get when you go to a bravenet guestbook for example..
Any advice? whats good? whats hot? and whats not? what should I try and what should I avoid?
I did read that once I upload in to the CGI folder I need to change perrmisions? whats that all about then? am sure it will make more sense when I actually try it but would like a bit of help / advice with my first attempt at it.
Kind Regards
Kev
Permissions are usually defined with CHMOD, which is what the 770 or whatever is.
The 3 digit number is actually 3 different numbers. The digit on the left is for Owner, the middle one for Group, and the left one for Public.
The owner is the unix user who created the file, the group is the group to which that user belongs, and public refers to anyone else.
Each of those 3 numbers can be from 0 to 7. It's done using binary, in three categories - read, write execute.
Read occupies the 4 multiplier, write occupies the 2 multiplier, and execute occupies the 1 multiplier, e.g.:
7 = (1*4) + (1*2) + (1*1)
This means read, write and execute are set to 1, i.e. True - i.e. RWE
6 = (1*4) + (1*2) + (0*1)
This means RW. I know I haven't explained it fantastically, but it's quite tricky to explain.
Therefore, if you are told to set a script to RW, you need to set it to 666. If you are told to set it to R, you need to set it to 444, etc...
The 3 digit number is actually 3 different numbers. The digit on the left is for Owner, the middle one for Group, and the left one for Public.
The owner is the unix user who created the file, the group is the group to which that user belongs, and public refers to anyone else.
Each of those 3 numbers can be from 0 to 7. It's done using binary, in three categories - read, write execute.
Read occupies the 4 multiplier, write occupies the 2 multiplier, and execute occupies the 1 multiplier, e.g.:
7 = (1*4) + (1*2) + (1*1)
This means read, write and execute are set to 1, i.e. True - i.e. RWE
6 = (1*4) + (1*2) + (0*1)
This means RW. I know I haven't explained it fantastically, but it's quite tricky to explain.
Therefore, if you are told to set a script to RW, you need to set it to 666. If you are told to set it to R, you need to set it to 444, etc...
yep a went to the help section, its complicated! I tried a simple thing like a counter... understood the CHMOD part but it said it needed r+rw or some thing like that yet freeola support pages say it should be 770 or 774? I am using cute FTP ver 4.2 oh a may stick with HTML lol old and reliable lol
Kev
Kev
Looks like you need to do a bit of reading up...
Here's a good place to start: [URL]http://freeola.info/[/URL]
Have a read under Web Space and FTP matters - you'll need some of this to configure SSI and CGI for your freeola site.
Here's a good place to start: [URL]http://freeola.info/[/URL]
Have a read under Web Space and FTP matters - you'll need some of this to configure SSI and CGI for your freeola site.
CGI isn't a language, it stands for Common Gateway Interface. It is used by languages such as Perl (which I believe Freeola support) and even PHP can be setup as a CGI module.
If you're going to learn a server-side language, I would recommend PHP.
If you're going to learn a server-side language, I would recommend PHP.
From my little knowledge of it, CGI would appear less powerful. It's generally used for undemanding tasks like Web Counters..
Hi
Me again OK on Freeola web space we get CGI support, what would I use it for? how easy is it to use? and is PHP better than C+? perl or ASP ? I have some knowledge of building web sites, but have only used good old fashioned HTML.
I use Frontpage 2000 to build sites and tweak some of the finer points in notepad. I would like to add things like a guestbook and a counter that run on CGI on our own web space within freeola so that we do not have all those pop up ads that you get when you go to a bravenet guestbook for example..
Any advice? whats good? whats hot? and whats not? what should I try and what should I avoid?
I did read that once I upload in to the CGI folder I need to change perrmisions? whats that all about then? am sure it will make more sense when I actually try it but would like a bit of help / advice with my first attempt at it.
Kind Regards
Kev
Me again OK on Freeola web space we get CGI support, what would I use it for? how easy is it to use? and is PHP better than C+? perl or ASP ? I have some knowledge of building web sites, but have only used good old fashioned HTML.
I use Frontpage 2000 to build sites and tweak some of the finer points in notepad. I would like to add things like a guestbook and a counter that run on CGI on our own web space within freeola so that we do not have all those pop up ads that you get when you go to a bravenet guestbook for example..
Any advice? whats good? whats hot? and whats not? what should I try and what should I avoid?
I did read that once I upload in to the CGI folder I need to change perrmisions? whats that all about then? am sure it will make more sense when I actually try it but would like a bit of help / advice with my first attempt at it.
Kind Regards
Kev