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so the UK is getting RAW live at 2am now eh??
utter cack.
it MAY have been me, so if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
there was no sound at the start, it seemed like there was a commercial break every 5 seconds and i think it over-ran, meaning that my video cuts out half way through the main event.. so i have to re-tape it mid-week anyway.
so in conclusion: DOH!
however, the show itself was quality, RAW continues it's roll of being pretty damn good!
hehe, added smirk points for that dude from La Resistance who botched a kip-up... and boy did the crowd notice :)
i'm not even attempting them in a spot until i can nail it every time... so far i've yet to nail it once *lol* DOUBLE DOH!
utter cack.
it MAY have been me, so if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
there was no sound at the start, it seemed like there was a commercial break every 5 seconds and i think it over-ran, meaning that my video cuts out half way through the main event.. so i have to re-tape it mid-week anyway.
so in conclusion: DOH!
however, the show itself was quality, RAW continues it's roll of being pretty damn good!
hehe, added smirk points for that dude from La Resistance who botched a kip-up... and boy did the crowd notice :)
i'm not even attempting them in a spot until i can nail it every time... so far i've yet to nail it once *lol* DOUBLE DOH!
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hmmm, thinking about it, i seem to recall he was kinda half way through getting up and he suddenly laid back down to do the kip up.
i think maybe the 2 kip-ups was a planned spot, Grenier does one and acts cocky, so Shelton does one and gets a pop, grenier goes over to conway who is praising his kip-up and then conway points out that benjimin is running towards him.
however, he blew the kip-up so he made out to be apologising instead. i think they just adapted the spot in accordance with the character and the botch.
well played all round.
i really hope that's right, cos THAT'S the kind of thing i love about the wrestling frame of mind and my favourite part of building a match is working out funky spots to make the face shine.... shame i'm still quite poor at it :D
i think maybe the 2 kip-ups was a planned spot, Grenier does one and acts cocky, so Shelton does one and gets a pop, grenier goes over to conway who is praising his kip-up and then conway points out that benjimin is running towards him.
however, he blew the kip-up so he made out to be apologising instead. i think they just adapted the spot in accordance with the character and the botch.
well played all round.
i really hope that's right, cos THAT'S the kind of thing i love about the wrestling frame of mind and my favourite part of building a match is working out funky spots to make the face shine.... shame i'm still quite poor at it :D
i wonder if you asked grenier whether he would admit if he messed it up...i just watched it again and its the way he had his back to benjamin that made me think it was planned, otherwise he would have had no reason to face conway to apologise
i dont know though...just guessing
i dont know though...just guessing
see i thought that was just the quick thinking that helps to make a professional wrestler. i still don't think the kip-up botch was deliberate.
The adverts are so common because its a live show! We are used to it flowing because it has been edited. The adverts are in place of the "Don't try this at home" things and the other pointless things they put in to waste time.
Also i think Sylvain Grenier did mess up on purpose because straight after he was apologising to Conway and that gave Benjamin time to nip-up.
Also i think Sylvain Grenier did mess up on purpose because straight after he was apologising to Conway and that gave Benjamin time to nip-up.
conceeded.
good point mate, although i feel the sudden move would still fit him well when the promotion to main event status arrives.
good point mate, although i feel the sudden move would still fit him well when the promotion to main event status arrives.
Very_Metal wrote:
> Cong_Man wrote:
>
> I think a submission hold of some sort would suit his character.
>
> hmmm, i'm not convinced.
> the t-bone suplex has the right pace for the character, but he needs
> a cool move that can be applied quickly. the stunner or the RKO are
> good cause they can come out of very little, the t-bone is a move
> that really only gets set up one way. a fast impact move works well
> though.
I'd agree with you if they were pushing him as a main-eventer, where a sudden move that can be hit at any point is the way to go. As an upper mid-carder they should make more of his amateur background, which is where I feel a submission hold would be more useful. It would also enable him to focus his ring work around a single body part, something he needs to do, to avoid being labelled as just another brawler...
> Cong_Man wrote:
>
> I think a submission hold of some sort would suit his character.
>
> hmmm, i'm not convinced.
> the t-bone suplex has the right pace for the character, but he needs
> a cool move that can be applied quickly. the stunner or the RKO are
> good cause they can come out of very little, the t-bone is a move
> that really only gets set up one way. a fast impact move works well
> though.
I'd agree with you if they were pushing him as a main-eventer, where a sudden move that can be hit at any point is the way to go. As an upper mid-carder they should make more of his amateur background, which is where I feel a submission hold would be more useful. It would also enable him to focus his ring work around a single body part, something he needs to do, to avoid being labelled as just another brawler...
Cong_Man wrote:
>
> I think a submission hold of some sort would suit his character.
hmmm, i'm not convinced.
the t-bone suplex has the right pace for the character, but he needs a cool move that can be applied quickly. the stunner or the RKO are good cause they can come out of very little, the t-bone is a move that really only gets set up one way. a fast impact move works well though.
>
> I think a submission hold of some sort would suit his character.
hmmm, i'm not convinced.
the t-bone suplex has the right pace for the character, but he needs a cool move that can be applied quickly. the stunner or the RKO are good cause they can come out of very little, the t-bone is a move that really only gets set up one way. a fast impact move works well though.
Grandprix wrote:
> I'd have to agree with Congy. Conway is a solid worker but because he
> has to team up with Grenier, he's tarred with the same brush.
Same with Doug Basham having to team with Danny for that matter...
> I'd have to agree with Congy. Conway is a solid worker but because he
> has to team up with Grenier, he's tarred with the same brush.
Same with Doug Basham having to team with Danny for that matter...
I'd have to agree with Congy. Conway is a solid worker but because he has to team up with Grenier, he's tarred with the same brush.
Very_Metal wrote:
> maybe so.. what would suit him do ya think?
> something like the eye of the hurricane would be pretty sweet...
> although maybe in bad taste at the moment :)
>
I think a submission hold of some sort would suit his character. Maybe a full-nelson, camel-clutch. Man, I mark out whenever I see anyone use that hole, because I used to use it as a 'finisher' when we used to imitate wrestling on the playground...
> maybe so.. what would suit him do ya think?
> something like the eye of the hurricane would be pretty sweet...
> although maybe in bad taste at the moment :)
>
I think a submission hold of some sort would suit his character. Maybe a full-nelson, camel-clutch. Man, I mark out whenever I see anyone use that hole, because I used to use it as a 'finisher' when we used to imitate wrestling on the playground...
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