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"Should Germany exercise universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes?"

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Thu 23/12/04 at 10:13
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Basically it grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity. It also makes military or civilian commanders who fail to prevent their subordinates from committing such acts liable. In the case of Rumsfeld, He will never be prosecuted in a US court for his crimes. Members of the Bush regime who planned and implemented the war and who have permitted the attrocities of Abu Graib should be held accountable in a court of law somewhere and that somewhere should be Germany.

In America one is considered innocent until proven guilty. If Mr. Rumsfeld and others feel they are innocent of war crimes charges, then they should not be concerned about being tried and standing in a trial to prove they are innocent of the charges.
Thu 23/12/04 at 10:47
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Administrations change. And the Neo-Cons aren't even that popular within their own party...
Thu 23/12/04 at 10:27
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Last year, the U.S. clashed with Belgium over a suit charging Presidential Medal of Freedom winner General Tommy Franks, who led the Iraq invasion. A 1993 Belgian law gave that country's courts the authority to judge people accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity and genocide—regardless of where the acts took place or the nationality of the suspects and the victims.

The Belgian suit sent Rumsfeld over the top. He threatened to block funding for a new NATO headquarters and warned that the U.S. might not send officials to Brussels while the law was in place. The Belgians immediately backed off, replacing the tough law with a much milder one, and the country's high court threw out the suits against Franks, former president Dad Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon.

Not sure how much truth is in this but it's a good example of America's grip on the way the world is run.
Thu 23/12/04 at 10:21
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"Wanking Mong"
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Something may yet happen in the future. Pinochet was assumed to be untouchable until a Spanish Judge set the ball rolling. Who's to say the same won't happen with Rumsfeld et al.

It's a nice thought anyway...
Thu 23/12/04 at 10:13
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Posts: 626
Basically it grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity. It also makes military or civilian commanders who fail to prevent their subordinates from committing such acts liable. In the case of Rumsfeld, He will never be prosecuted in a US court for his crimes. Members of the Bush regime who planned and implemented the war and who have permitted the attrocities of Abu Graib should be held accountable in a court of law somewhere and that somewhere should be Germany.

In America one is considered innocent until proven guilty. If Mr. Rumsfeld and others feel they are innocent of war crimes charges, then they should not be concerned about being tried and standing in a trial to prove they are innocent of the charges.

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