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"Ron Atkinson"

Quick poll.

Mis-treated of fairly treated?

Dringo, please, stop.

You're making morons like Stridman and Wakka look clever.

Dringo - you're a cretin of uncomparable proportions.

Forza wrote:
> So let me get this straight.
>
> You're saying that calling someone a n*****r is as bad as calling
> someone fat or ugly?

If you're insulting SOMETHING else then yes.

In Ron's case saying n*****r is the equilivant of saying ugly.

That's all Ron meant it as though.

Lets say he looked ugly rather than being black, Ron woulda said...

"What a useless ugly ba$tard"

You know... that's all he meant it in. He wasn't insulting Black people he was insulting the player and connected an attribute to him, much like calling Rooney Ugly or Viduka fat.

That's all I mean.

A at person wouldn't be as fast as a thin perxon generally though, and probably less fit, so that would affect their qualuity in a match, and when have you ever heard anyone criticise Ruud's playing because he's got a rather long face, or someone gone "Ach. I can't believe that potatoe lookalike missed there"

YOu're just stupid.
That's all.

So let me get this straight.

You're saying that calling someone a n*****r is as bad as calling someone fat or ugly?

Oh dear. Oh dear.
Oh dear.


I always knew you were a complete and utter moron Dringo, but now...
Oh dear.

Forza wrote:

> So calling someone a "n****r" is simply making an
> observation, is it?
> Moron.

I don't know the full context but I guess that is not what offended the player.

I'd imagine that n****r was a word used at the end of a section of abuse about his football playing.

Mark Viduka, utterly useless, completely ruined the entire game, can't play to save his life the stupid fat tw*t.

Maybe that makes me fatist???

I would never use the word Ron used for the simple reason it is deemed so offensive it is almost surreal. But it is no different from calling Rooney Ugly, Viduka fat, Van Nistolroy a horse.

They are all derogatory but they aren't criticised or slammed. You see n****r is just an offensive way of saying black person, fat is an offensive way of saying obese or overweight, Ugly is a cruel saying too. They are all as bad as eachother and personally I find that n****r is no different than calling someone a wa**** or any other offensive term. And we all do it, even to people we like, especially if they did something particulary useless.

I can understand his anger at being sacked for saying when "they all call each other that anyway".
It's still way wrong though, it's basically like saying "he'd play better if he was white"

He should be shot anyway - because his name is too similar to Rowan Atkinson, who is waaaay better.

I honestly do have to laugh at you for that, Dringo.

I really really do.

So calling someone a "n****r" is simply making an observation, is it?
Moron.

I insult people for being naff...

If a fat guy screwed something up I'd call him a "stupid fat (insert word)"

An oberservation on character.

Women, I'd say a derogatory comment about women to a woman who messed up.

So I really think it is a little overblown. Nothing against the nationality just the individual.

But hey he's back now.