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Wed 10/11/04 at 12:43
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I've been scapegoat, says Howard

Manchester United goalkeeper Tim Howard believes he was made a scapegoat for their unconvincing start to the season.
Howard lost his place to Roy Carroll after several early-season mistakes but is set to play in Wednesday's Carling Cup tie against Crystal Palace.


"A goalkeeper is a very convenient scapegoat. I understand that," he said.

"I'm always going to own up to my mistakes but did I lose us games? No. Did I contribute to it? Yes. But it takes 11 of us to win and 11 to lose."

Howard is philosophical about his current position though as he strives to reclaim his number one standing.

"Sitting on the bench, and being one play away from being a starter again, there's a lot worse things going on in the world right now," he added.

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While I can strongly agree with what Tim Howard is saying here, I've got a sick feeling his words here may come back to hurt him in some way - we all now Sir Alex doesn't like his players speaking out of turn (and Roy Keane will probably stick his nose in somewhere too...).

Yet, on a more positive thought, I'd like to think this would now bring forth other players in the squad - namely regulars like Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes - to swallow their pride, step forward and accept that they are part of the same team that is to blame.

After that, you never know... We may even hear cough something up, in a mumbled, jibberish kind of way... (don't hold your breath, kids!) :O


You know, Tim Howard and Sir Alex Ferguson are a far more alike than I previously though...

While either one can instantly flip his lid in a mere split-second, both have been singled-out as the men to take the blame for other people's mistakes.
Wed 17/11/04 at 12:31
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I do wonder how much Roy Carroll's own descisions play into this, though?

Had he not been in the final year of his contract - currently unable to agree to a new deal - would he have strolled into the role so casually, whether the defense had made such mistakes or not?

We all know how much Fergie'd like him to stay...
Sat 13/11/04 at 21:13
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Why can't we get both areas working in the same season? The last few years it's been the defence leaking goals costing us matches and now our strike force can't score for love nor money unless it's in Europe.
Sat 13/11/04 at 19:22
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Tim Howard is right.

Man United lost against Portsmouth and drew against City and he wasn't in goal which proves it's not him. I'd blame the strikers for not scoring.
Thu 11/11/04 at 22:03
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Yes Tim Howard was partially a scapegoat, but it's also true that taking him out of the firing line is a good move. (see David James' performances for Man City since he left the England set up)

I too think that Ferguson should have left at the end of last year, when there was a clear shift of power from north to south and after all, it's unlikely a manager will just fall into place at a club like Man Utd. (see Fergie's early record) Poor decisions made all around the club in the past 2 years I think: Ronaldinho, Fergie, Tactics, etc.
Wed 10/11/04 at 21:29
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I find it very difficult to belive that Howard can't even get into the first 11 as he is a class keeper, but take nothing away from Caroll he is doing a wonderful job between the sticks. :)

On a slightly different note, i think Fergie should of left a long time ago!
Wed 10/11/04 at 19:11
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Buffon would have conceeded goals with the horrible defence we had at the start of the season (Wes Brown couldn't stop a 90 year old tearing past him)

The only goal i'd say he was at fault for was the one at Lyon when he spilled it. Other than that there was hardly anything screaming dodgy keeper and pull him out the squad. But then Fergie does seem to have something against consistency in a squad
Wed 10/11/04 at 14:26
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Solskjær wrote:

You know, Tim Howard are a far more alike than I previously though...
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Ehhhhh!?!

=D
Wed 10/11/04 at 13:47
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It's simple really, Howard made a few blunders and, like last season, Fergie decided to pull him out of the firing line and give him a break.

Many of our midfield players aren't performing at the moment and our Manager aint up to scratch either. Until changes are made in either of those departments, we will continue to struggle.

Tim is a good young keeper and his time will come again.
Wed 10/11/04 at 12:43
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www.BBC.co.uk


I've been scapegoat, says Howard

Manchester United goalkeeper Tim Howard believes he was made a scapegoat for their unconvincing start to the season.
Howard lost his place to Roy Carroll after several early-season mistakes but is set to play in Wednesday's Carling Cup tie against Crystal Palace.


"A goalkeeper is a very convenient scapegoat. I understand that," he said.

"I'm always going to own up to my mistakes but did I lose us games? No. Did I contribute to it? Yes. But it takes 11 of us to win and 11 to lose."

Howard is philosophical about his current position though as he strives to reclaim his number one standing.

"Sitting on the bench, and being one play away from being a starter again, there's a lot worse things going on in the world right now," he added.

----------

While I can strongly agree with what Tim Howard is saying here, I've got a sick feeling his words here may come back to hurt him in some way - we all now Sir Alex doesn't like his players speaking out of turn (and Roy Keane will probably stick his nose in somewhere too...).

Yet, on a more positive thought, I'd like to think this would now bring forth other players in the squad - namely regulars like Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes - to swallow their pride, step forward and accept that they are part of the same team that is to blame.

After that, you never know... We may even hear cough something up, in a mumbled, jibberish kind of way... (don't hold your breath, kids!) :O


You know, Tim Howard and Sir Alex Ferguson are a far more alike than I previously though...

While either one can instantly flip his lid in a mere split-second, both have been singled-out as the men to take the blame for other people's mistakes.

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