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Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? For example you look at murder and clearly it's wrong to end someones life ... from a survival point of view ... isn't it? But what if overpopulation is destroying the planet and retards the human race? Is murder such a bad thing then? Maybe the instinct to murder fellow man is natures way of dropping the population a bit.
What about inter-personal relationships ... it's so hard to nail anything down sometimes ... who was wrong, who was right ... do you rest on your tried and tested morality, or do you keep open minded to other peoples plights? How open minded should you be before you're basically bending to another persons will? Do your insecurities or past experience bias your tendancy to take others words as Gospel before believing in your own? Can we really trust our own decision making when it is biased by our emotions and insecurities?
It's easy to lose yourself sometimes if you stay too open minded, but then being stuck in your ways is not a good thing ... how do you decide what is right and what is wrong? Gut instinct, experience or education ... ?
I don't know where this came from, perhaps from the Travis single 'Side' ... the quote 'there is no wrong, there is no right, the circle only has one side'. It seemed like a hot ticket anyway ...
What about inter-personal relationships ... it's so hard to nail anything down sometimes ... who was wrong, who was right ... do you rest on your tried and tested morality, or do you keep open minded to other peoples plights? How open minded should you be before you're basically bending to another persons will? Do your insecurities or past experience bias your tendancy to take others words as Gospel before believing in your own? Can we really trust our own decision making when it is biased by our emotions and insecurities?
It's easy to lose yourself sometimes if you stay too open minded, but then being stuck in your ways is not a good thing ... how do you decide what is right and what is wrong? Gut instinct, experience or education ... ?
I don't know where this came from, perhaps from the Travis single 'Side' ... the quote 'there is no wrong, there is no right, the circle only has one side'. It seemed like a hot ticket anyway ...
Borat wrote:
> Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? For example
> you look at murder and clearly it's wrong to end someones life
> ... from a survival point of view ... isn't it? But what if
> overpopulation is destroying the planet and retards the human
> race? Is murder such a bad thing then? Maybe the instinct to
> murder fellow man is natures way of dropping the population a
> bit.
I think the instinct to murder is based upon survival in a life threatening situation. Like all human instincts some people have the ability to surpress them quite easily while others have a more difficult time.
When people become angry they often feel like killing the person who has caused that anger but know it's just a thought but there are a few who let it boil over and carry out the killing.
As far as the dropping the population I don't think that's the cause but on a similar note I think it's caused by wanting to "spread your seed" and have future generations being made up of as many of your kids, grandkids etc.
I've seen quite a few nature programmes where the males of the group kill offspring thats not theirs in order to get the females pregnant again with their offspring and I think that's been passed on to us.
Should the population of the earth get too much I can't see people being "culled" I think what will happen is countries will have a policy like China has now of only 1 child per family.
> What about inter-personal relationships ... it's so hard to nail
> anything down sometimes ... who was wrong, who was right ... do
> you rest on your tried and tested morality, or do you keep open
> minded to other peoples plights? How open minded should you be
> before you're basically bending to another persons will? Do
> your insecurities or past experience bias your tendancy to take
> others words as Gospel before believing in your own? Can we
> really trust our own decision making when it is biased by our
> emotions and insecurities?
In some situations it's clear who was in the wrong but in most it's not and that has been caused by peoples opinions about the facts of the case.
A lot of laws are hated because they say what's right and wrong and are telling us how to think and fell about a given situation which we do not want to accept.
I find myself being biased by my past experiences and try hard to have an open mind about each and every new situation but have little success.
> It's easy to lose yourself sometimes if you stay too open
> minded, but then being stuck in your ways is not a good thing
> ... how do you decide what is right and what is wrong? Gut
> instinct, experience or education ... ?
A bit of all 3 really, gut instincts are good but can cloud your judgement to the facts as can education and experience. I try and look at the facts without opinion in a given situation and then form my opinion about the situation which like I said earlier is very hard to do.
> Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? For example
> you look at murder and clearly it's wrong to end someones life
> ... from a survival point of view ... isn't it? But what if
> overpopulation is destroying the planet and retards the human
> race? Is murder such a bad thing then? Maybe the instinct to
> murder fellow man is natures way of dropping the population a
> bit.
I think the instinct to murder is based upon survival in a life threatening situation. Like all human instincts some people have the ability to surpress them quite easily while others have a more difficult time.
When people become angry they often feel like killing the person who has caused that anger but know it's just a thought but there are a few who let it boil over and carry out the killing.
As far as the dropping the population I don't think that's the cause but on a similar note I think it's caused by wanting to "spread your seed" and have future generations being made up of as many of your kids, grandkids etc.
I've seen quite a few nature programmes where the males of the group kill offspring thats not theirs in order to get the females pregnant again with their offspring and I think that's been passed on to us.
Should the population of the earth get too much I can't see people being "culled" I think what will happen is countries will have a policy like China has now of only 1 child per family.
> What about inter-personal relationships ... it's so hard to nail
> anything down sometimes ... who was wrong, who was right ... do
> you rest on your tried and tested morality, or do you keep open
> minded to other peoples plights? How open minded should you be
> before you're basically bending to another persons will? Do
> your insecurities or past experience bias your tendancy to take
> others words as Gospel before believing in your own? Can we
> really trust our own decision making when it is biased by our
> emotions and insecurities?
In some situations it's clear who was in the wrong but in most it's not and that has been caused by peoples opinions about the facts of the case.
A lot of laws are hated because they say what's right and wrong and are telling us how to think and fell about a given situation which we do not want to accept.
I find myself being biased by my past experiences and try hard to have an open mind about each and every new situation but have little success.
> It's easy to lose yourself sometimes if you stay too open
> minded, but then being stuck in your ways is not a good thing
> ... how do you decide what is right and what is wrong? Gut
> instinct, experience or education ... ?
A bit of all 3 really, gut instincts are good but can cloud your judgement to the facts as can education and experience. I try and look at the facts without opinion in a given situation and then form my opinion about the situation which like I said earlier is very hard to do.
Morality is a useless measure of humanity that fails because it often becomes incompatible with equity and/or common sense.
The morality should be flexible enough to allow congruence with the viewpoints of others, provided both viewpoints themselves are reasonable to begin with.
But then what is reasonable? What is acceptable? A thousand years ago, people might not have batted an eyelid if you killed someone in a squabble over chicken feathers.
Morality for me is limited wholly to the 'goes around comes around' don't burn your bridges methodology. Which is to say, do what you like, unless it's going to annoy someone who can do something about it, or can later deny you something you need.
The morality should be flexible enough to allow congruence with the viewpoints of others, provided both viewpoints themselves are reasonable to begin with.
But then what is reasonable? What is acceptable? A thousand years ago, people might not have batted an eyelid if you killed someone in a squabble over chicken feathers.
Morality for me is limited wholly to the 'goes around comes around' don't burn your bridges methodology. Which is to say, do what you like, unless it's going to annoy someone who can do something about it, or can later deny you something you need.
The certain late-19th century philosopher suggested that we should develop our own moral standpoint based on thinking for ourselves ... I'm not sure this is possible. Moral attitudes and "where we draw the line in the sand" are almost always adopted or inherited or deeply influenced by others. It's unrealistic to sit in a high tower and say "my morals are my own!" when thousands of years of ethical thinking stretches behind you.
Er, what am I getting at ... I'm against fixed moral codes (moral dogma), but in all honesty I'm not really sure where I stand morally on many issues. I mean, thinking I would act a certain way if faced with an ethical situation/decision/dilemma is one thing - whether I would actually act that way, I'm not sure. Perhaps it comes down to how selfish, egoistic, strong or weak a person is as to how they would be in a "moral situation".
Er, what am I getting at ... I'm against fixed moral codes (moral dogma), but in all honesty I'm not really sure where I stand morally on many issues. I mean, thinking I would act a certain way if faced with an ethical situation/decision/dilemma is one thing - whether I would actually act that way, I'm not sure. Perhaps it comes down to how selfish, egoistic, strong or weak a person is as to how they would be in a "moral situation".
What can I answer with? You're right, of course, life isn't black and white and sometimes this leads to difficult choices.
You just do the best you can using your own knowledge and sense of morals.
You just do the best you can using your own knowledge and sense of morals.
Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? For example you look at murder and clearly it's wrong to end someones life ... from a survival point of view ... isn't it? But what if overpopulation is destroying the planet and retards the human race? Is murder such a bad thing then? Maybe the instinct to murder fellow man is natures way of dropping the population a bit.
What about inter-personal relationships ... it's so hard to nail anything down sometimes ... who was wrong, who was right ... do you rest on your tried and tested morality, or do you keep open minded to other peoples plights? How open minded should you be before you're basically bending to another persons will? Do your insecurities or past experience bias your tendancy to take others words as Gospel before believing in your own? Can we really trust our own decision making when it is biased by our emotions and insecurities?
It's easy to lose yourself sometimes if you stay too open minded, but then being stuck in your ways is not a good thing ... how do you decide what is right and what is wrong? Gut instinct, experience or education ... ?
I don't know where this came from, perhaps from the Travis single 'Side' ... the quote 'there is no wrong, there is no right, the circle only has one side'. It seemed like a hot ticket anyway ...
What about inter-personal relationships ... it's so hard to nail anything down sometimes ... who was wrong, who was right ... do you rest on your tried and tested morality, or do you keep open minded to other peoples plights? How open minded should you be before you're basically bending to another persons will? Do your insecurities or past experience bias your tendancy to take others words as Gospel before believing in your own? Can we really trust our own decision making when it is biased by our emotions and insecurities?
It's easy to lose yourself sometimes if you stay too open minded, but then being stuck in your ways is not a good thing ... how do you decide what is right and what is wrong? Gut instinct, experience or education ... ?
I don't know where this came from, perhaps from the Travis single 'Side' ... the quote 'there is no wrong, there is no right, the circle only has one side'. It seemed like a hot ticket anyway ...