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Thu 21/10/04 at 14:34
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"l33t cs50r"
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Currently I have one of these:

[URL]http://www.leadtek.nl/nts/uk/products/mb/content.php?subject=WinFast%20K7NCR18D%20PRO&tab=_2&cur=Specifications[/URL]

Currently sat in it I have:

AMD Athlon XP2400+ Stock
1GB (1x512 2x256) DDR333 PC2700 Ram.

Whilst I'm getting together the parts for my new box, I want to upgrade the processor on this board and step up to DDR400.

Ti's all a little over my head when people start talking FSB's etc, so basically all I want to know is;

Whats the max Athlon XP I can upgrade too to allow better speeds and 400DDR?

From the spec sheet, I should be able to go:

AMD Athlon Xp 3000+
L2 Cache @ 512
Cloack @ 166
Multiplier @ 13

Would I need to chage anything in the BIOS?
In the mean while, can I use the 3000+ with DDR333? And is it a case of just dropping in the new processor?

Arghhh.... Such a n00b sometimes!;)
Sat 23/10/04 at 13:17
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"Bicycle"
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Same.
Sat 23/10/04 at 12:46
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"bing bang bong"
Posts: 3,040
I might be interested in taking your old RAM and particularly your old processor off your hands if you don't need it for anything.
Thu 21/10/04 at 19:08
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Tyla wrote:
> It's just to tide me over for a bit whilst I build my new Athlon64
> 3800 box.
Erm why not save more for your new machine (i.e more glowy thingys for inside the case :D)
Thu 21/10/04 at 15:12
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"l33t cs50r"
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Yup, only an extra 170 MHz + an approx extra 7% performance boost from
> the extra cache memory. Although, I suppose in thinking about it that
> equates to approx 18% extra performance.

18% is better than a kick in the teeth.

It's just to tide me over for a bit whilst I build my new Athlon64 3800 box.
Thu 21/10/04 at 15:08
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Yup, only an extra 170 MHz + an approx extra 7% performance boost from the extra cache memory. Although, I suppose in thinking about it that equates to approx 18% extra performance.
Thu 21/10/04 at 15:04
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"l33t cs50r"
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Yes, basically. But pay attention to what you order, there are two
> versions of the 3000XP out. One has an FSB of 333, one of 400. The
> 333 version runs at 2.17 GHz, the 400 version at 2.1 GHz. AMD figure
> the extra memory bandwidth afforded by the higher FSB accounts makes
> up for a slightly lower clock speed. Really though, you won't be
> getting much better performance than your 2400XP. Only 10% or so of a
> difference.

Looking at this one: AMD Athlon XP3000 333FSB 512 L2 Cache Barton Retail Boxed Inc Heatsink & Fan with 3year Warranty

Mobo will take the 400 version too.

Confused by your clock speeds though. My 2400+ clocks @ stock @ 2008Mhz does this mean I'll only gain an extra 170mhz?
Thu 21/10/04 at 15:00
"I love yo... lamp."
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Yes, basically. But pay attention to what you order, there are two versions of the 3000XP out. One has an FSB of 333, one of 400. The 333 version runs at 2.17 GHz, the 400 version at 2.1 GHz. AMD figure the extra memory bandwidth afforded by the higher FSB accounts makes up for a slightly lower clock speed. Really though, you won't be getting much better performance than your 2400XP. Only 10% or so of a difference.
Thu 21/10/04 at 14:56
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"l33t cs50r"
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OK, going to go with the Desktop XP3000+ stock, not into OC'ing, just want to extend my current desktop a little.

Cost is £110.40 inv vat for reatil with Fan etc (about £70 through work)

If I understand what you said was right, I should be able to crop it straight in, keeping the current RAM, and everything should be hunky dory?
Thu 21/10/04 at 14:44
"I love yo... lamp."
Posts: 19,577
You could just drop a 3200XP straight in. It'll need DDR400 RAM to get the best out of the system though. It is the fastest stock Socket A processor there is. It runs at 2.2 GHz, with a FSB of 200 MHz (400 Double Data Rate).

It'll cost you around £100 + VAT.

BUT:
You have a bunch of RAM already, it would cost you another £100 + VAT to get a gig of DDR 400 stuff. And whilst the 3200XP is the fastest stock processor on socket A, the mobile Athlon XPs will also fit into a standard desktop board. It may require a BIOS flash, but most boards will support it. Now why do I mention them? Well, they are cheaper, at around £65 + VAT and they overclock like hell.

They also have unlocked multipliers, which means you could keep your current RAM and then just change the multiplier to 13.5 and be running just over 3200 XP speeds. Most mobile Athlons will overclock to around 2.5 GHz on decent air cooling. They are cheaper and better, that's the bottom line.

When changing CPU's from the same range, you don't need to do anything. The BIOS will autodetect pretty much everything.
Thu 21/10/04 at 14:34
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"l33t cs50r"
Posts: 2,956
Currently I have one of these:

[URL]http://www.leadtek.nl/nts/uk/products/mb/content.php?subject=WinFast%20K7NCR18D%20PRO&tab=_2&cur=Specifications[/URL]

Currently sat in it I have:

AMD Athlon XP2400+ Stock
1GB (1x512 2x256) DDR333 PC2700 Ram.

Whilst I'm getting together the parts for my new box, I want to upgrade the processor on this board and step up to DDR400.

Ti's all a little over my head when people start talking FSB's etc, so basically all I want to know is;

Whats the max Athlon XP I can upgrade too to allow better speeds and 400DDR?

From the spec sheet, I should be able to go:

AMD Athlon Xp 3000+
L2 Cache @ 512
Cloack @ 166
Multiplier @ 13

Would I need to chage anything in the BIOS?
In the mean while, can I use the 3000+ with DDR333? And is it a case of just dropping in the new processor?

Arghhh.... Such a n00b sometimes!;)

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