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I want to learn C++ or C as a programming language because 'Visual Basic' just didnt really do much for me. I was able to pick the basics of VB up in no time and teach them to a retarded monkey, non of my programs were actually unique because they had been churned out by many other VB programmers before and there is not much scope for originality. Thats just my opinion so no one have a go at me for saying that.
To cut to the chase, i want to learn a language where i can set my teeth into and have fun learning it whilst it not being 'easy' to learn the basics.
I realise I need a compiler - Which one should i use.
I need some Source-code/Tuts - Could someone point me in the direction.
I need general advice.
C or C++, which one.
Thankyou,
James

Free compiler and IDE.

Some of the tutorials on GameTutorials use this.

http://csjava.occ.cccd.edu/~gilberts/devcpp5/

Oh, and good tutorials for starting C++ are found here :D

http://www.gametutorials.com/

and for OpenGL graphics nehe.gamedev.net

C is a subset of C++, so if you learn c++ you could always learn C later. C++ is not compatible with C however :D

Depends on what you want it for though, C++ has more object-oriented facilities and is a much better language to plearn for designing software.

Thanks for the posts.
I decided to take up Delphi, seeing as it is similiar in looks with VB it should be quite simple for me to pick up the basics.
Well i have already picked up the basics, i just thought it would be easier for me to recode one of my projects that i started writing in VB. A Remote Admin Tool, seems to be coming along alright...

Petzold is indeed the bible when it comes to Windows programming in C/C++, although it only covers Win32 and not mfc, and is therefore not object oriented. Additionally, Windows programming is now all about .NET and C# (with further architectures in the pipeline for Longhorn). No-one in their right mind would start out to create Windows software entirely in C++ these days, unless they had some backend considerations.


To the OP, the most important thing is not learning how to program, but learning how to program well, as there are a myriad of bad practises that must be avoided. I would recommend you start with learning Java - it is syntactically quite similar to C/C++, and it's structure lends heavy emphasis to object-oriented programming, while avoiding the brainf&*! of memory management in C and C++.


Garin wrote:
> You are entitled to your opinion of course, but it is a strange thing
> to say. Originality is limited by you, not by the programming
> language. I cant really imagine what you can do in C/C++ that you
> cant do in VB especially in a windows environment.

Go ahead and write anything multi-platform in VB. Or anything efficient.

gamesfreak: I would wholeheartedly recommend this book if you're having problems with programming with Windows.

[URL]http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/157231995X/ref=ord_cart_shr/202-1367620-5780602?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE[/URL]

I've found C++ to be extrememly complicated from a GUI point of view.

Making console apps is simple, but moving up in the chain to Windows-programming and it becomes a tad complicated.

I'm currently learning PHP, and it's quite fun and rewarding!

Mode wrote:
> I got that last night, i have been using it this morning. Works
> well, made a stupid little concole program that divides any number
> you enter by 12.
>
> :-\
>
> Ive got a long way to go.

hehe, don't worry mate, you're still ahead of me :)

Very_Metal wrote:
> Bloodshed Dev-C++ programmign environment:
>
> [URL]http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html[/URL]
>
> see if that's any good for you, it's free and from the little
> experience i had with it, it seemed fairly user friendly...

I got that last night, i have been using it this morning. Works well, made a stupid little concole program that divides any number you enter by 12.

:-\

Ive got a long way to go.

Bloodshed Dev-C++ programmign environment:

[URL]http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html[/URL]

see if that's any good for you, it's free and from the little experience i had with it, it seemed fairly user friendly...