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Sat 14/08/04 at 10:24
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"Pouch Ape"
Posts: 14,499
Kudos to them for keeping their cool the other week when it turned out that computer games caused World War II, but their games journalism in general is amateurish and plain awful. Take this for example: [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3558892.stm[/URL]

An article on Doom 3. Cool! They're hip, they're with it...but what's this: "the gaming equivalent of the release of a new Harry Potter book". WTF!? No, it really isn't, you've made sweeping comments again, BBC News. I can see what they mean by the rush to buy it, but to me, Harry Potter is the bane of the book-reading world. People love it and hate it in equal measures, and you can't say that about games because the quality varies from title to title, sequel to sequel.

It's not the first time I've spotted them making vague generalisms either. In an article on Halo a few months back, apparently the only reason a group of men sit hunched around a TV screen is to watch porn together. Maybe down Soho way, but what a crappy comment to make in a bad attempt at combining humour with games news (only the News Monkey has that right). The videogame entertainment industry is fun for us, but it requires competent journalism to respond to the attacks it is succeptible to when the smack-tards at the Daily Mail fall out of their prams, or else we won't be taken seriously. The BBC isn't helping. They have a section aimed at kids - why lower the standards of their main news site by hosting articles seemingly written by children?

On the plus side, they do seem to be airing more and more articles related to gaming. The quality will no doubt improve as they hire journalists who actually have a clue about the content. The handful of game reviews they do have are poor, but at least they're making an effort.
Sat 14/08/04 at 10:24
Regular
"Pouch Ape"
Posts: 14,499
Kudos to them for keeping their cool the other week when it turned out that computer games caused World War II, but their games journalism in general is amateurish and plain awful. Take this for example: [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3558892.stm[/URL]

An article on Doom 3. Cool! They're hip, they're with it...but what's this: "the gaming equivalent of the release of a new Harry Potter book". WTF!? No, it really isn't, you've made sweeping comments again, BBC News. I can see what they mean by the rush to buy it, but to me, Harry Potter is the bane of the book-reading world. People love it and hate it in equal measures, and you can't say that about games because the quality varies from title to title, sequel to sequel.

It's not the first time I've spotted them making vague generalisms either. In an article on Halo a few months back, apparently the only reason a group of men sit hunched around a TV screen is to watch porn together. Maybe down Soho way, but what a crappy comment to make in a bad attempt at combining humour with games news (only the News Monkey has that right). The videogame entertainment industry is fun for us, but it requires competent journalism to respond to the attacks it is succeptible to when the smack-tards at the Daily Mail fall out of their prams, or else we won't be taken seriously. The BBC isn't helping. They have a section aimed at kids - why lower the standards of their main news site by hosting articles seemingly written by children?

On the plus side, they do seem to be airing more and more articles related to gaming. The quality will no doubt improve as they hire journalists who actually have a clue about the content. The handful of game reviews they do have are poor, but at least they're making an effort.
Sat 14/08/04 at 11:16
"Majestic"
Posts: 1,625
Harry Potter Books, tut; i think they used it in the wrong context.
They should have said:

"this game will make other releases this month look like harry potter books (!)"

Now that makes more sense. Does it does it not?
Sat 14/08/04 at 13:14
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"TheShiznit.co.uk"
Posts: 6,592
It's the same whenever any form of media tries to write about something it doesn't understand. You get tabloid newspapers writing about games in some headline-grabbing exposé, but on closer inspection they're revealed to have no idea what they're talking about.

It's nothing new. It's like asking me to write a piece on politics - I could probably rustle up a few facts, names, people and places and on the surface it might look like it makes sense, but it wouldn't take long to figure out it was written by someone with no clue.

The BBC hire David Gibbon. For the record, I'd like to point out I hate David Gibbon with much venom, first for being a terrible journalist who wouldn't know a fact if it announced itself in his ear with a large megaphone, and second for being a big whiny baby and threatening to sue some kids on a chat forum for 'defamation' (despite the posts being nothing more than harmless 'he's crap' fare), an action that was clearly the result of searching Google for his own name and being unpleasantly surprised with the results. Idiot.
Sat 14/08/04 at 13:14
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"you've got a beard"
Posts: 7,442
taken from the article:

"The latest instalment in the bestselling series, known for its intense action and realistic violence..."

if i could just point out that their mention of "realistic" violence is closely followed by a screenshot of the player facing 2 giant mutant spider things.... i believe they may have just pis$ed on their own chips with that one :)
Sat 14/08/04 at 15:48
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Posts: 8,220
Mmm, chips

hold on.. ewwww
Sat 14/08/04 at 16:58
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Posts: 2,849
Mr Snuggly wrote:

and second for being a big whiny baby and
> threatening to sue some kids on a chat forum for 'defamation'
> (despite the posts being nothing more than harmless 'he's crap'
> fare), an action that was clearly the result of searching Google for
> his own name and being unpleasantly surprised with the results.
> Idiot.

Where's the news on this?
Sat 14/08/04 at 20:11
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"Gundammmmm!"
Posts: 2,339
Reminds me, there's a case in the US right now where someone complained to the owners of a forum that they were being bullied etc on it and nothing was being done. Site owners ignored it.....and received details of legal proceedings the next week. Person doing it is doing so under defamation and some harassment type laws and stuff, it's kind of a test case because it's not happened before and there are issues about releasing the personal information of users to others, but also whether hiding such information allows those same users carte blanche to do what they want. If the person bringing it is successful then it could impact big time on US forums, and it could only be a matter of time before it happens here, though I am not sure how our laws vary on this here in the UK.

The name Dave Gibbon sounds familiar but I can't place where from, can remember Dave Perry but not Gibbon, someone jog my mind please!
Sat 14/08/04 at 20:26
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Sat 14/08/04 at 20:30
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"Gundammmmm!"
Posts: 2,339
Ah that's it. My little cousin knows more than him and he's 6.
Sat 14/08/04 at 20:33
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Posts: 11,038
monkey_man wrote:
> An article on Doom 3. Cool! They're hip, they're with it...but
> what's this: "the gaming equivalent of the release of a new
> Harry Potter book". WTF!? No, it really isn't, you've made
> sweeping comments again, BBC News. I can see what they mean by the
> rush to buy it, but to me, Harry Potter is the bane of the
> book-reading world.

They're right though, loads of people hate Harry Potter books, yes, but when a new one is released, it's huge, millions of sales worldwide etc, they're not saying anything about the quality, they're talking about the popularity, as, although many people loathe Harry Potter books, there are still million whjo go out and buy it.

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