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Sat 24/07/04 at 10:45
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Ok this is not 100% but Word has it that there will be 2 raw main events this Summerslam.
1. will be HHH V.S Eugene.
And the 2nd will be Randy Ortan V.S Benoit for the World title...and the word is that the WWE are intrested in giveing the title to Ortan!
Now 2 things hit me when I think about this.
Randy is a great wrestler and will make a great champ one day..but I cant help but think its a lil too early in his push to be the world champ.
I have no doubts that him and Benoit could put on a great match I just think theres other guys on Raw who should get the belt before Ortan, Like Y2J or Kane.
WWE feels that by giving Ortan the title now he could end up like how the Rock did when he was given the title at such a young age and become a larger than life character. Which makes me think that they want to make him a face which again I dont think is right. What makes ortan so cool is his the cocky bad guy. Look at Cena he was great as a heel but his promos suck now his become a face.
So what do you guys think? is it too soon for Ortan to be champ and If so who do you think should be after Benoit??or maybe you think Benoit should hlod it for a few more months[something i would not mind].
Just remember this is not 100% sure as theres always the iron man match next week to think about..maybe thats when Ortan will make his move and cost HHH the match???
Tue 27/07/04 at 09:39
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thebestbit wrote:
> †hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> >. Also, what exactly has Kane done to deserve the belt?
>
> true his not done much the past year but then look at the rubbish
> storylines his been put in!
> If they were to take him back to how he was when he first started he
> would be great. One of the best things about Kane was the no talking
> bit of him, just come down beat the hell out of someone then leave.
> Plus look at his first title run, he held it for 1 bloody day which
> is hardly fair.

The damage has been done though, you can't suddenly start pushing a guy as a monster heel when he's recently been jobbed out to Matt Hardy!!!
Mon 26/07/04 at 20:06
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"One Man Landslide"
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thebestbit wrote:
> Plus look at his first title run, he held it for 1 bloody day which
> is hardly fair.

Well, sadly for Kane, he just isn't good enough to be a champion. Especially not while he's being jobbed out to anyone going. Giving him the title at least gives him a title reign. He was the right person to have that particular title reign - worthy of having one behind his name, but also the right person to be used in such a surprising result.
Mon 26/07/04 at 18:36
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"gametag:thebestbit"
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†hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
>> . Also, what exactly has Kane done to deserve the belt?
>
> true his not done much the past year but then look at the rubbish storylines his been put in!
If they were to take him back to how he was when he first started he would be great. One of the best things about Kane was the no talking bit of him, just come down beat the hell out of someone then leave.
Plus look at his first title run, he held it for 1 bloody day which is hardly fair.
Mon 26/07/04 at 13:17
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mr sunday night wrote:
> Ok this is not 100% but Word has it that there will be 2 raw main
> events this Summerslam.
> 1. will be HHH V.S Eugene.
> And the 2nd will be Randy Ortan V.S Benoit for the World title...and
> the word is that the WWE are intrested in giveing the title to
> Ortan!
> Now 2 things hit me when I think about this.
> Randy is a great wrestler and will make a great champ one day..but I
> cant help but think its a lil too early in his push to be the world
> champ.

First of all, Randy is NOT a great wrestler. He hasn't mastered selling for his opponent, when necessary, transitioning between moves and basic psychology. Until he does all of the above, I won't consider him to be a great wrestler, just another Green OVW rookie jabroni.

> I have no doubts that him and Benoit could put on a great match I
> just think theres other guys on Raw who should get the belt before
> Ortan, Like Y2J or Kane.

Orton doesn't have the technical skills to put on a truly great match with Benoit. To put on a truly great match, you need to be your opponents equal, much like Benoit and Angle. Orton doesn't have the ability to 'go' with Benoit and trade holds and counter holds at the same speed as Benoit can, which will, in the end, make him look inferior. Also, what exactly has Kane done to deserve the belt?

> WWE feels that by giving Ortan the title now he could end up like how
> the Rock did when he was given the title at such a young age and
> become a larger than life character.

That's quite a presumption? I think the thinking behind putting the belt on Orton is that it would be a cracking way to lead into a feud with HHH, nothing more, nothing less.

> Which makes me think that they
> want to make him a face which again I dont think is right. What makes
> ortan so cool is his the cocky bad guy. Look at Cena he was great as
> a heel but his promos suck now his become a face.

There are so many wrestlers on the roster right now who work better as heels, in fact I'd estimate about 75% of the roster are better as heels, simply because it's easier to be hated than loved. Someone has to be a face by default.
Sat 24/07/04 at 18:02
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"you've got a beard"
Posts: 7,442
John Cena wrote:
> LAST WEEK, EUGENE WAS GONE FROM RAW FOR GOOD, SO THE FIRST ONES PRETTY
> UNLIKELY

do you know ANYTHING?!?!?
:-\
Sat 24/07/04 at 17:26
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"gametag:thebestbit"
Posts: 877
John Cena wrote:
> LAST WEEK, EUGENE WAS GONE FROM RAW FOR GOOD, SO THE FIRST ONES PRETTY
> UNLIKELY
please you know its just a story. maybe he'll get involved next week aswell. the guys to popular for them to just take him off tv...oh and turn the caps off
Sat 24/07/04 at 17:14
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"WORD LIFE"
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LAST WEEK, EUGENE WAS GONE FROM RAW FOR GOOD, SO THE FIRST ONES PRETTY UNLIKELY
Sat 24/07/04 at 13:20
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"Brooklyn boy"
Posts: 14,935
Ah it must be great to be friends with HHH, get pushes you don't deserve and longer tv time as well. The only thing Orton has done to impress me is how well he whined about his frickin arm all those moons ago. Jericho is far more deserving instead of being the Steroid abusers job monkey
Sat 24/07/04 at 10:45
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"gametag:thebestbit"
Posts: 877
Ok this is not 100% but Word has it that there will be 2 raw main events this Summerslam.
1. will be HHH V.S Eugene.
And the 2nd will be Randy Ortan V.S Benoit for the World title...and the word is that the WWE are intrested in giveing the title to Ortan!
Now 2 things hit me when I think about this.
Randy is a great wrestler and will make a great champ one day..but I cant help but think its a lil too early in his push to be the world champ.
I have no doubts that him and Benoit could put on a great match I just think theres other guys on Raw who should get the belt before Ortan, Like Y2J or Kane.
WWE feels that by giving Ortan the title now he could end up like how the Rock did when he was given the title at such a young age and become a larger than life character. Which makes me think that they want to make him a face which again I dont think is right. What makes ortan so cool is his the cocky bad guy. Look at Cena he was great as a heel but his promos suck now his become a face.
So what do you guys think? is it too soon for Ortan to be champ and If so who do you think should be after Benoit??or maybe you think Benoit should hlod it for a few more months[something i would not mind].
Just remember this is not 100% sure as theres always the iron man match next week to think about..maybe thats when Ortan will make his move and cost HHH the match???

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