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Following in the long tradition of this happening on the forum, I wanted, if you can spare them (!), anyone's opinion on my situation.
Started work for (a company) on Monday and embarked on the 5 week training thing that is the start of it. When I found I had the job I was really pleased and looking forward to it. Now...less so. Can't quite put it into words but I just do not have a good feeling about it.
It's 13K a year and bonus, but I'm wondering if I can do better? Not just because I scraped a first for my degree, I'm not someone who expects a degree to instantly equal great salary, but, well, it's already mind numbingly dull. We've spent two days basically being trained to answer the phone calls of morons and doing idiot exercises, led by a 28 year old training person who I can't help thinking has the mentality of a nursery school teacher. Yep, that's what it feels like.
I need the money, no doubt about it, but only for a credit card as I'm living at home, student loan is paid off to just under £2000 remaining.
And the real thing...offered interview for management training with another company -been turned down twice before - and they don't even want me to go to an initial interview - it's straight into the all expenses paid assessment and the final interview (no more stages) in about two weeks time. There is no way I can go to that interview without missing the training at the current place - it's 9-5 five days a week. I cannot reschedule this interview - it's last recruitment of the year, so it's now or next year.
I'm stumped, but I get the feeling that if I liked the current thing so much this wouldn't be so hard... It's potentially risking a job for an interview, but if I dont get the other job I'm left without one, having said that I managed to get this one in two weeks anyway..... ideas? thoughts? abuse? etc
Started work for (a company) on Monday and embarked on the 5 week training thing that is the start of it. When I found I had the job I was really pleased and looking forward to it. Now...less so. Can't quite put it into words but I just do not have a good feeling about it.
It's 13K a year and bonus, but I'm wondering if I can do better? Not just because I scraped a first for my degree, I'm not someone who expects a degree to instantly equal great salary, but, well, it's already mind numbingly dull. We've spent two days basically being trained to answer the phone calls of morons and doing idiot exercises, led by a 28 year old training person who I can't help thinking has the mentality of a nursery school teacher. Yep, that's what it feels like.
I need the money, no doubt about it, but only for a credit card as I'm living at home, student loan is paid off to just under £2000 remaining.
And the real thing...offered interview for management training with another company -been turned down twice before - and they don't even want me to go to an initial interview - it's straight into the all expenses paid assessment and the final interview (no more stages) in about two weeks time. There is no way I can go to that interview without missing the training at the current place - it's 9-5 five days a week. I cannot reschedule this interview - it's last recruitment of the year, so it's now or next year.
I'm stumped, but I get the feeling that if I liked the current thing so much this wouldn't be so hard... It's potentially risking a job for an interview, but if I dont get the other job I'm left without one, having said that I managed to get this one in two weeks anyway..... ideas? thoughts? abuse? etc
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Things are looking positive, already I've signed up with a local graduate recruitment agency and got a place on a one day management training course (all free) which I'll get a certificate for at the end of the day, and another interview lined up, along with 4 applications sent off, and I can get jobseekers allowance as well.
Despite all the inventiveness, there really was no way to skive around missing the day. The interview I have starts at 9AM in coventry, so that means I leave here about 7:30 ish, and doesnt end until 4PM (theres group stuff etc) The place I was at needs you to phone after 9am and before you start (in my case 9:30am),....but that's mute now.
I think I've been lazy in my previous search so I'm making the effort now, thanks again for the advice, sagacious one especially.
I think I've been lazy in my previous search so I'm making the effort now, thanks again for the advice, sagacious one especially.
Ineedsleep wrote:
> Ring them in the morning, speak
> softly
Don't lay it on too thick though - a surefire way to arouse suspicion..
> Or, if the interview is in the afternoon, go in
> as usual but act all quiet and keep nipping out with the excuse that
> you feel queasy. Then excuse yourself at lunchtime saying that you
> need to go home.
>
> Bosses are always more lenient if you've made the effort to go to
> work in the first place.
Top skiving!
I take my hat off to you, that is a very smart move. Get the time off when you're well, and make the bosses think you were doing the very opposite. Genius :^)
> Ring them in the morning, speak
> softly
Don't lay it on too thick though - a surefire way to arouse suspicion..
> Or, if the interview is in the afternoon, go in
> as usual but act all quiet and keep nipping out with the excuse that
> you feel queasy. Then excuse yourself at lunchtime saying that you
> need to go home.
>
> Bosses are always more lenient if you've made the effort to go to
> work in the first place.
Top skiving!
I take my hat off to you, that is a very smart move. Get the time off when you're well, and make the bosses think you were doing the very opposite. Genius :^)
the sagacious one wrote:
>> So you should go for the job you want and be preparded to have to
> find an alternative if all goes t*ts up. There's plenty of time to do
> sh*tty jobs young man, so why not try and get one that you actually
> like.
>
Basically that. I'd go for it.............but one must be prepared I guess.
>> So you should go for the job you want and be preparded to have to
> find an alternative if all goes t*ts up. There's plenty of time to do
> sh*tty jobs young man, so why not try and get one that you actually
> like.
>
Basically that. I'd go for it.............but one must be prepared I guess.
I'd look at it like this:
you must have made a successfull application to aquire the job that you are currently being trained for.
Therefore you would probably be able to get another job of that type fairly easily, if in the worst case scenario you go for the other more desirable job, and then aren't successfull. Just don't mention that you jacked the last job in/were sacked etc on your next app form, a couple of weeks "unexplained" inactivity is fine at this stage of your life!
So you should go for the job you want and be preparded to have to find an alternative if all goes t*ts up. There's plenty of time to do sh*tty jobs young man, so why not try and get one that you actually like.
And why not consider temping in an office (if there is the capacity for such work in your area) and the benefits that it provides? A regular income, access to the internet, a dossy job, plenty of time to make job applications, flexible hours and no hassles if you want to go to interviews etc. Think of it as a better alternative to Job Seekers Allowance...
you must have made a successfull application to aquire the job that you are currently being trained for.
Therefore you would probably be able to get another job of that type fairly easily, if in the worst case scenario you go for the other more desirable job, and then aren't successfull. Just don't mention that you jacked the last job in/were sacked etc on your next app form, a couple of weeks "unexplained" inactivity is fine at this stage of your life!
So you should go for the job you want and be preparded to have to find an alternative if all goes t*ts up. There's plenty of time to do sh*tty jobs young man, so why not try and get one that you actually like.
And why not consider temping in an office (if there is the capacity for such work in your area) and the benefits that it provides? A regular income, access to the internet, a dossy job, plenty of time to make job applications, flexible hours and no hassles if you want to go to interviews etc. Think of it as a better alternative to Job Seekers Allowance...
It's true that it is easier to find employment while you are currently working but you'll be forever kicking yourself if you let the chance go by and don't go to the interview.
Sickness and diarrhea are a good sickie to pull (what kind of evidence for that would they want?). Ring them in the morning, speak softly and blame it on the Chinese you had for supper e.g. you've been up all night. Or, if the interview is in the afternoon, go in as usual but act all quiet and keep nipping out with the excuse that you feel queasy. Then excuse yourself at lunchtime saying that you need to go home.
Bosses are always more lenient if you've made the effort to go to work in the first place. I make my husband do this - it works everytime, even to the extent that they have sent him home before he gets to excuse himself :)
Sickness and diarrhea are a good sickie to pull (what kind of evidence for that would they want?). Ring them in the morning, speak softly and blame it on the Chinese you had for supper e.g. you've been up all night. Or, if the interview is in the afternoon, go in as usual but act all quiet and keep nipping out with the excuse that you feel queasy. Then excuse yourself at lunchtime saying that you need to go home.
Bosses are always more lenient if you've made the effort to go to work in the first place. I make my husband do this - it works everytime, even to the extent that they have sent him home before he gets to excuse himself :)
That's what I've done here. I really need to get out of this job asap. It's depressing and pointless. I need something challenging and active - it's a shame such jobs are scarce these days. Most good jobs require x years experience.
Yep, I'm leaving and going back to looking for management trainee things like I did originally. It was a mistake to take this just because I could get it, I think I went for the 'safe' option instead of something that was actually challenging.
I'm in a similarish position - take law training (a second rate job) and commit £10,ooo to it, or don't and in a years time, go for an interview for a job I do want. But if I don't get it, I'd have wasted a couple of years of potential legal qualification.
I've decided to go for the one I really want.
You're not committed to one career for life, but nevertheless if you'll be there for any amount of time, your career will have a big impact on your happiness.
You have a choice between trying for something you really want, or settling for something you'll probably dislike.
Go for the good one - don't be left in a crap job thinking 'if only..'.
If you try and fail, maybe you get fired, maybe you don't. But crap jobs aren't that hard to come by.
You're living at home, so worst comes to worst you don't need to spend any money. The credit cards - move to someone with a 0% balance transfers offer. Try Virgin or Halifax. When the 0% period ends, get a new card.
I used to know a girl who, if she wanted time off, would play the 'cramps' card. Not too often, and the (male) boss predictably didn't ask too many questions.
That might not work for you (though I'd love to see you try :^D ), but I'm sure you can come up with a similarly 'personal' illness that people won't want to press you on.
Or failing that, you could just point out that you can afford a day away from training as it's mind-numbingly simple, then make sure you catch up.
Go for it, and good luck.
I've decided to go for the one I really want.
You're not committed to one career for life, but nevertheless if you'll be there for any amount of time, your career will have a big impact on your happiness.
You have a choice between trying for something you really want, or settling for something you'll probably dislike.
Go for the good one - don't be left in a crap job thinking 'if only..'.
If you try and fail, maybe you get fired, maybe you don't. But crap jobs aren't that hard to come by.
You're living at home, so worst comes to worst you don't need to spend any money. The credit cards - move to someone with a 0% balance transfers offer. Try Virgin or Halifax. When the 0% period ends, get a new card.
I used to know a girl who, if she wanted time off, would play the 'cramps' card. Not too often, and the (male) boss predictably didn't ask too many questions.
That might not work for you (though I'd love to see you try :^D ), but I'm sure you can come up with a similarly 'personal' illness that people won't want to press you on.
Or failing that, you could just point out that you can afford a day away from training as it's mind-numbingly simple, then make sure you catch up.
Go for it, and good luck.
And no grain without whisk
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