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Thu 26/04/01 at 16:16
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A post from Wookie Monster and the ongoing thread about games influencing behaviour got me thinking about the genre of “Survival Horror”.
I for one am a huge fan of these games and feel that they are an often overlooked entry into video gaming.

I started on these games with Resident Evil for the PSX, never played anything like it before and loved it.
It wasn’t really a scary game, there were odd moments that made you jump (the hands through the windows anyone?) but it was more gore than nerves.
And Res Evil 2 came out, a vast improvement on the 1st if nothing else in terms of voice acting.
I can remember laughing myself into a headache at the awful, awful acting in the 1st one, “Barry?….where’s Barry?…..(10 second pauses) He must be in trouble”. Imagine a group of drama students on valium and you might be approaching the level of suckage this had, it almost ruined the game for me.

The 2nd was an improvement, moments that made you jump (the big thing smashing through the wall and chasing you stands out), the graphics improved and the acting wasn’t straight from kung-fu dubbed movie-hell.
Then Dino Crisis. Same game engine but with Dinosaurs.
Hmmm…it was ok but the odd not-very-fast-asorous lumbering behind you didn’t give you a sense of urgency.
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis.
Once more, little improvement, better acting but still “Run about, get ammo, solve puzzle, shoot undead” grew wearying.

And then was Silent Hill.
This, for me, stands as the definitive gaming exercise in terror. Still does, after a repeated playing.
Yes this is gory, yes there are “things” that chase you.
But Silent Hill concentrates on mood, atmosphere and moments that made two 27 year olds turn the light on and wipe sweaty palms on the dog, swear at the cat for leaping onto the couch behind us and take pauses to reassure ourselves that nothing was hanging outside the door.

I’ve never experienced anything like this game, and I don’t think you can match it.
Gruesome, but genuinely disturbing in most places.
The school, evil imps burst out at you, children crying, locker doors SMASHING open as you walk past…so many moments to make you cry like a big girl (not me obviously…er…guns and war and other manly things).

And soon we have Silent Hill 2 on PS2.
I’m anticipating it greatly, yet fearing it immensely because I’m not sure nerves can handle an improved, even more adult excursion through some twisted Japanese mind.
The developers admitted “We toned the 1st one down, but we gave them free reign with this one”

Christ…do I want this or not?
Yes and no.





Sat 28/04/01 at 00:08
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"qwertyuiop!!"
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pb wrote:
> In most violent games you tend to play the good guy/gal. This
> reinforces the idea that the good side is the right side to be
> on.

In Doom and Quake you play someone fighting evil demons and
> other monsters, obviously battling on the side of good. In many
> other violent games it's the same, The Resident Evil games have you
> playing as cops (or special forces operatives in the first game)
> against a seemly evil army of zombies and their 'evil' creators.
>

As long as people realise that games are not meant to be real
> life then they have no harm against religion. It is only those
> people who are insecure in their own belief that need to cause such
> a fuss over games and movies 'degrading' their faith.

Life of
> Brian and Dogma are two films that have been persecuted by people
> who haven't even seen them. Neither film, however, is negative
> about the Christian faith to an extent which would harm the
> christain church. Games, too have aspect that have been derided
> from time to time by fundimentalist spokesmen for religion, and just
> like those who complain that it leads to anyone becoming more
> violent by playing a game, there is no basis in truth for these
> outbursts.

WHy can't we ever play as bad guys in games like this!
Fri 27/04/01 at 21:41
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"Fishing For Reddies"
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You can laugh at the Christian faith all you want friend but when the rapture comes you will be toast!

:D

But on a serious note, there will always be people who will 'vote' in favour of these games. I don't believe they should be released, as girls crying in games is just plain horrible. Zombies and all the rest of them don't make a good game...gameplay does and there are better games out there that offer a lot better gameplay than Resident Evil:CV and Evil Dead.

I can't stop people playing games but for anyone thinking of getting a survival horror and starting a collection or the like....DON'T...

Buy Right...Buy Nintendo...

...Comprende?

The Game
Fri 27/04/01 at 18:06
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"possibly impossible"
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In most violent games you tend to play the good guy/gal. This reinforces the idea that the good side is the right side to be on.

In Doom and Quake you play someone fighting evil demons and other monsters, obviously battling on the side of good. In many other violent games it's the same, The Resident Evil games have you playing as cops (or special forces operatives in the first game) against a seemly evil army of zombies and their 'evil' creators.

As long as people realise that games are not meant to be real life then they have no harm against religion. It is only those people who are insecure in their own belief that need to cause such a fuss over games and movies 'degrading' their faith.

Life of Brian and Dogma are two films that have been persecuted by people who haven't even seen them. Neither film, however, is negative about the Christian faith to an extent which would harm the christain church. Games, too have aspect that have been derided from time to time by fundimentalist spokesmen for religion, and just like those who complain that it leads to anyone becoming more violent by playing a game, there is no basis in truth for these outbursts.
Fri 27/04/01 at 17:51
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"I like cheese"
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Goatboy wrote:
> Bingo.

Any excuse.
Be it religion, video games, movies,
> territory, money, oil...we've been bashing each other's brains out
> since we swung through the trees.

Same monkeys, better
> technology.

>What a wonderful world.

True, but look at the bright said. There are many good things in this world.

Also, in reply to devo, my mum and dad (both christians), watch 18 movies, and don't mind me playing violent games. Also, me dad's favourite game of all time is Doom 2.
Fri 27/04/01 at 17:02
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Well I saw him running through the dome saying something about a "temple of thieves?"

I would've chatted to him but he was full of righteous fury and mentioned raining sulphur so I made like a tree.

Ok, time to go home and pack for my weekend away.

have a good one and remember

If Jesus does come back, you think he ever wants to see another cross?

Peace

Goaty
Fri 27/04/01 at 16:59
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He was probably going to queue up for the Eye.
Fri 27/04/01 at 16:58
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Yeah, I started on that but then some beardy-weirdy came up and turned me fish into loaves and water into cordial.

I was miffed, but he said something about his blood and body before trotting off across the Thames.

Strange bloke.
Fri 27/04/01 at 16:55
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That's just being greedy. You should have a psalm for dessert.
Fri 27/04/01 at 16:51
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Tell me about it.

Genesis was ok, but by the time I hit Ecclesiastes, I was full.
Fri 27/04/01 at 16:49
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Goatboy - true, but people often turn to their elders in whatever place of worship for guidance. A lot of those books are big, and can't be digested easily ;-).

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