The "Freeola Customer Forum" forum, which includes Retro Game Reviews, has been archived and is now read-only. You cannot post here or create a new thread or review on this forum.
Yep, it's one of those phases when the extremist parties pop out to play.
We all know about the BNP (well some one had to make the current crop look good! :-D) amongst others, but here's one that's got my attention:
([URL]http://www.respectcoalition.org[/URL])
What do you think?
They've certainly got my interest, especially over the ethics.
Also, as you read more you find that they're not simply an anti-war protest, although this is their main issue, it does extends a bit further than that. You can read tibits like their vision for London and why they're rejecting the European constitution (without all the "STAY BRITONS! KEEP THE POUND!!!!" tabloid malarky) to see what they're trying to achieve.
Basically, you know how all these protests happen, and not a blind bit of political notice is taken, you have to wonder why these millions or so of peoples don't just make their own party, which seems to have happened.
I know it's an old issue, but remember how Tony B sort of tricked us and manipulated us into seeing the Iraq situation rather than tricking and manipulating opposition on our behalf?
I think the general idea of the respect coalition is a party that works for us, not makes us work for them, you know. :-)
Whether they can realistically put their theories into practice remains to be seen, but I think it's worth a try.
What do you think?
We all know about the BNP (well some one had to make the current crop look good! :-D) amongst others, but here's one that's got my attention:
([URL]http://www.respectcoalition.org[/URL])
What do you think?
They've certainly got my interest, especially over the ethics.
Also, as you read more you find that they're not simply an anti-war protest, although this is their main issue, it does extends a bit further than that. You can read tibits like their vision for London and why they're rejecting the European constitution (without all the "STAY BRITONS! KEEP THE POUND!!!!" tabloid malarky) to see what they're trying to achieve.
Basically, you know how all these protests happen, and not a blind bit of political notice is taken, you have to wonder why these millions or so of peoples don't just make their own party, which seems to have happened.
I know it's an old issue, but remember how Tony B sort of tricked us and manipulated us into seeing the Iraq situation rather than tricking and manipulating opposition on our behalf?
I think the general idea of the respect coalition is a party that works for us, not makes us work for them, you know. :-)
Whether they can realistically put their theories into practice remains to be seen, but I think it's worth a try.
What do you think?
Page:
You're a bad man :(
Damn it SR!
This is your fault!
You and your dodgy servers!
Seriously, I clicked once and nothing happened for AGES, and then tried a few more times but still no dice.
So thinking the site was down a clicked some more, left it, browsed in another window and...
:-)
Edit: 10 posts? HAS to be a new record! :-D
This is your fault!
You and your dodgy servers!
Seriously, I clicked once and nothing happened for AGES, and then tried a few more times but still no dice.
So thinking the site was down a clicked some more, left it, browsed in another window and...
:-)
Edit: 10 posts? HAS to be a new record! :-D
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Firstly thanks to Paradox (all fixed now! :-))
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
In reply to Light/Biggles:
I don't really know what this George Galloway is like yet (I've only come across them fairly recently) but although I'm taking your opinion on board, I'm still waiting to form my own.
And I've not noticed any pro-muslem talk, just the usual equality and discrimination.
But time will tell. :-)
In reply to Duckio, yeah, individual candidates is the ideal over gang power play, but there's always going to be alliances and the like. Atleast this party is fresh and still has its ideals close to heart.
As to policy, I didn't see anything perfectly solid, but it's still early days. I saw what seemed fairly close in "European Manifesto" and their "Vision for London".
Anysway, with the Tories and Libdems coaliting in Leicester (so I've been told) these seem to be the best vote anyway.
Respect.. seems like a good idea, somewhere for people left of the Lib Dems to vote, fair enough.
I read their web site, and to be honest, aside from the most obvious stuff and the general left position, I couldn't dig out that many actual policies.
Then again, that tends to be the case for any party, until an issue comes up and is better highlighted by the media.
However, I'm increasingly of the opinion that people with honourable motives always seem to lose them when they settle into power.
I know Respect aren't threatening that exactly, but why vote for someone you don't want running the country?
Yes, Respect seem to have their hearts in the right place, yes, Kennedy does too.
But I remember when I used to feel that way about Blair. *Washes bitter taste from mouth*
In my ideal world, people would vote for independent, non-partisan, candidates, individuals who represented similar opinions. And they'd vote for decent honourable people who genuinely wanted to serve their electorate. Not a**-monkeys who see it as a power game.
Then these people would sit down, discuss issues thoroughly and sensibly, then each vote on their genuine position on the matter. Not what the party whip told them to vote for, as a means to undermine 'the other side'.
There would be practical/procedural difficulties, but if the right kind of people were elected they could mostly be overcome reasonably easily.
Of course, it'll never happen anyway.
The only independent candidate elected in the past billion years was Bell, and that was only a freak scenario, as a means to get rid of a corrupt Tory (Hamilton).
Still, maybe if the Commons was splintered into loads of smaller parties there'd be a similar effect - no one party would have total control, so everyone would be reduced to actually voting according to their opinions and morals, instead of to their game strategy.
Well, the parties would no doubt form coalitions and much of the a**-clownary would continue.
But maybe it'd be better than it is now.
I read their web site, and to be honest, aside from the most obvious stuff and the general left position, I couldn't dig out that many actual policies.
Then again, that tends to be the case for any party, until an issue comes up and is better highlighted by the media.
However, I'm increasingly of the opinion that people with honourable motives always seem to lose them when they settle into power.
I know Respect aren't threatening that exactly, but why vote for someone you don't want running the country?
Yes, Respect seem to have their hearts in the right place, yes, Kennedy does too.
But I remember when I used to feel that way about Blair. *Washes bitter taste from mouth*
In my ideal world, people would vote for independent, non-partisan, candidates, individuals who represented similar opinions. And they'd vote for decent honourable people who genuinely wanted to serve their electorate. Not a**-monkeys who see it as a power game.
Then these people would sit down, discuss issues thoroughly and sensibly, then each vote on their genuine position on the matter. Not what the party whip told them to vote for, as a means to undermine 'the other side'.
There would be practical/procedural difficulties, but if the right kind of people were elected they could mostly be overcome reasonably easily.
Of course, it'll never happen anyway.
The only independent candidate elected in the past billion years was Bell, and that was only a freak scenario, as a means to get rid of a corrupt Tory (Hamilton).
Still, maybe if the Commons was splintered into loads of smaller parties there'd be a similar effect - no one party would have total control, so everyone would be reduced to actually voting according to their opinions and morals, instead of to their game strategy.
Well, the parties would no doubt form coalitions and much of the a**-clownary would continue.
But maybe it'd be better than it is now.
Page: