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Have been trying to watch this after many many months of not bothering, and I've been left with an overwhelming question:

Do they actually play music?

I mean is it me? MTV - Music. TeleVision. M-T-V right?
There used to be Headbangers Ball, Dance Nation, European Top 20, Yo MTV Raps etc etc, ok so I didn't like most of the music on there but at least there were tunes being played.
But looking at it now, it's just wall-to-wall programmes with zero videos.
Jackass/Dirty Sanchez/Room Raiders/Cribs/Newly Weds/Pimp My Ride/Rich Girls etc etc.
It appears to be just programmes about people with records to sell and a product to push.
I even saw an advert that finished with "Less singing, more viewing"
Excuse me? A station that exists (as hinted at by the name) to spew endless videos/adverts for albums you can buy is promoting itself as a station with less music and more programmes about crap?
Eh? What's going on?

Is it that wretched "Branding" thing again, where a company/corporation decides it doesn't actually have to produce anything and instead promotes it's name as something? Like Nike isn't about the manufacturing of shoes, it's now about being seen as actually "about" sports, or Coke spending millions to simply keep it's brand in your head?
Could you explain to me the point of MTV if it doesn't actually play videos? Has it shifted into wanting to be this cool, hip station that you can leave on for everything, instead of watching an hour/two hour specialist show on your preferred musical genre?

Go look at the listings for MTV for the next two days - I would but I don't have a TV Times or similar - and see if there actually are scheduled music slots where they play videos instead of having a couple of cyphers doing nothing except making sure you remember their name and not even the asinine bilge their record company tries to convince you is music.
Go, really, have a look now and report back with what you find.

I don't get it, a music television station without music...*shakes head*
They have programmes about the making of a video, but they don't play the videos themselves.
Retarded, and I bet people lap it up and ask for more - and that makes me sigh a weary sigh as I watch future generations plummet in a freefall to inanity and lust for mindless trivia.
You can buy t-shirts with the MTV logo on the front, did you know that? You can be a billboard and promote this musicless-music station as you go about your life. Hurrah...

Mind you, looking at the absolute toss in the charts it's probably a good thing that station doesn't waste electricity playing their commercials..sorry...videos.
McFly - have you seen those little eunuchs? Man, when you make Busted look like Led Zeppelin, then something's wrong with this picture.
Are kids really that stupid that they like this? Actually, I can forgive kids because they don't have any tastes of their own. That's why Busted/Steps etc have fans that are under-10 but c'mon, 4 squeaky clean moppets bouncing around with Fisher Price guitars and singing about absolutely nothing of consequence...What has happened?
Why did we let it get to this?
We exist in a world of Will Young/Busted/McFly/So Solid Crews - a world where music is drained of soul, passion and heart and instead served up in odourless, tasteless bite-sized sachets of bland nothing.

Otis Redding/Aretha Franklin/The Temptations/Tina Turner/Led Zeppelin/Jimi Hendrix/Adam & The Ants/Wilson Pickett/Sam & Dave/Bill Withers/James Brown/Toots & The Maytalls/King Tubby/The Beatles/Black Sabbath...an endless list that you could add to all night and never repeat yourself.
Music used to be part of the culture, Bob Dylan wrote songs about Ruben Carter for chrissakes.
What do we have now?

MTV - a music television station that doesn't have any music on.
If I could hurry up with my escape pod then I wouldn't have to watch this planet sink into a quagmire of banality and you wouldn't have to read my headwrongs.

Kill these creatures.
Shoot McFly in the face.
Do it, for all our sakes.

I'm even bloody doing that

I used to moan at my dad for watching VH1 on Sunday mornings when the cartoons were on.

ARGH I'm old/

I'm dreading the day that I find myself flicking to VH1 and thinking 'Ooh, this is much better. It's got a good beat.' But it's slowly happening.

MTV is now the breeding ground for 14 year old skater bois and American celebrity knuckleheads.

I too noticed this recently. I've not seen a music video on MTV for the past year.

But how many MTV channels are there now anyway?

MTV
MTV2
MTV Dance
MTV Base
MTV Hits

I guess they decided that they split it into different genres, and leave the original MTV for the non-music pap that they produce.

The only one I tend to hover on for any amount of time is MTV2, but too often that's non music stuff, so I don't often bother.

Ginger Peni gonna fit right in here I think.
Welcome.

Oh, and to whoever said McFly aren't that bad? I bet you can't tie a plastic bag over your head and run about for 13minutes.

Mc Fly are Busted 1.1

The fact that they copied Busted and want to be as sucessful as Busted shows how bad they are.

It's like the music execs decided that boy bands weren't 'hip' anymore and the best new thing they could come up with was boy bands with guitars. Predictably though the public lapped them up and now they get millions of pounds and fans for some of the worst lyrics I've heard this side of the Cheeky Girls.

"I've been to the year 3000, nothing has changed but we live underwater"

Quite a lot's changed then hasn't it you dopey cockshank.

Goatboy wrote:
> .
> McFly - have you seen those little eunuchs? Man, when you make Busted
> look like Led Zeppelin, >

> Kill these creatures.
> Shoot McFly in the face.
> Do it, for all our sakes.


I'm guessing you havent heard McFlys album. Ther're not as bad as I originally thought (Unless of course the're not playing the decent bits and they have someone else recording it in the studio). I still think they are nowhere near as good as the other bands you have mentioned.

I remember the Snow Patrol singer was getting stuck into Zane, funniest thing ever.

" What? What does he actually do? Kids wait after him at the show, seriously kids."

Whilst Zane is in background DJing and the other MTV2 people pisss themself laughing.

You don't need to say it, goaty - there's a legion of ex-MTV viewers that still remember what is was like to have a channel dedicated to what they love. Music. Sadly it's gone, turned into some kind of over-commercialised cash cow, from which trendy execs in suits suckle at stretched out teets. Do you know they even show 'cult' 80s films in the evenings now, just to kill off another hour of the mouthbreather's lives that watch toss like 'Celebrity Homes - see how you'll never live', 'Newlyweds - a documentary on interdisability marriages', and 'The Making of Newlyweds Meets The Faking of the Osbournes'.

MTV2 is worse though. You know they play Eminem videos, right? And the Offspring, Blink 182 and Sum41 are all puppet-bands, right? And it's getting more like MTV1 everyday. Cribs, Dirty Sanchez, Jackass, and now they play movies too on MTV2. The only redeeming feature is Beavis & Butthead, but I've seen them all before so that doesn't count. And don't get me started on Zane Lowe. I sometimes watch if he interviews someone I respect, like the Beastie Boys, or Jason Pierce, but he's such a total suckup, you can see these people getting annoyed by his 'cooler-than-thou' approach. But the kids love him, so let's see if we can squeeze a few thousand more Slipknot-hoodie-wearing wannabes out of our viewer ratings.

People that worship *unts like Fred Durst really, REALLY annoy me though. A screaming, whingy, middle-aged man, the only musical quality he can claim to possess is loudness, beds line after line of 16-year old groupies, probably trying to get each one up the bum because it's rock and roll, yeah, maaaan, Satan roolz, 2 kool 4 skool. One day he'll slip up, and it'll be some underage kid - cue the next Jacko. Has the amazing talent of being in a band but not actually being a musician. How does that work? Oh yeah, he was already a millionaire record company executive before Limp Bizkit albums mysteriously started appearing in every record shop, and on every music TV channel as the 'next big thing'. 1 + 1 = 2.

I see MTV, now, as the 'Home Base', as they've got all their other stations (MTV2, Bass, Dance, Hits) to give you all your other needs.

Peace.

You don't need MTV for music, the dozens of other music channels can cater to your every need. At least, that's how they see it.