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Tue 11/05/04 at 07:32
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Conflict is the eternal hobby of humankind: without it we’d all be bored to tears.

When was the last film you watched (or book you read) about a person utterly at peace with him or herself, living in perfect harmony and generally spreading happiness and joy? My guess is never. Yes a person might achieve peace by the close of the film (or book), but what did it take to get there? I guarantee it was scene upon scene, chapter upon chapter of conflict and adversity. Fiction without conflict would be as dull as dishwater.

Sexual conflict. Men and women wouldn’t bother to interact whatsoever if it wasn’t for the libido (which in itself causes conflict between the body and the mind). The yin and yang of man and woman, the sexual tension of desire and speculation, the meeting of minds and the differing points-of-view: it all fulfils perfectly our inbuilt need for stimulating conflict. The sexual act itself is in many ways conflictual – peace only being found in the aftermath of orgasm (or not as the case may be).

Did I read somewhere that one third of the world is at war or involved in some conflict or other. You’d think that by this stage of our evolution we’d be beyond all this squabbling over borders, natural resources and the like. But no. Conflict still reigns supreme. Even those who vehemently oppose and protest against wars and conflicts are for all intents-and-purposes involved in (and in many ways enjoying) the conflict. And to top it off, most wars/conflicts are fought in the name of peace – how ironic.

Perhaps you disagree, but if you do, please take into account that an argument against the notion of ‘conflict being the eternal hobby of man’ will (in essence) be conflictual.
Tue 11/05/04 at 14:15
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"eat toast!"
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intrestingly the puzzle game normality sets you in a world where any emotions of happyness, sadness etc was against the law and you had to run a normal life. I wonder if this would be the outcome if we didn't have anything to fight about. Possibly, it could be heaven.
Tue 11/05/04 at 13:44
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"Excommunicated"
Posts: 23,284
And it's never going to change.

Conflict is good in social interaction, things are good to be different. When it comes to wars and politics it can be horrible, especially with the people who represent us.
Tue 11/05/04 at 11:31
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"Going nowhere fast"
Posts: 6,574
I'd agree with you

* stagnates *

That was a little heavy for 7.30 am.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:59
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Plants and stuff are helped by swaling (burning) - and many of the inventions used today originated in war. War is a catalyst for massive development. Trouble is the cost is unarguably too high.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:57
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"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
A little conflict is certainly a good thing as it leads to innovation, thought, etc etc. However, too much is a bad thing as it becomes conflict for the sake of conflict.

As in all things, there is a balance to be struck when it comes to conflict. Which is quite a deep statement for a Tuesday.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:51
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Yup. Your final statement sums it up.

Stuff can't but not go with Todorov;

Normality (previously altered) - disruption - search for normality - new altered normality.

Over and over. Maybe.
Tue 11/05/04 at 07:32
Regular
"Laughingstock"
Posts: 3,522
Conflict is the eternal hobby of humankind: without it we’d all be bored to tears.

When was the last film you watched (or book you read) about a person utterly at peace with him or herself, living in perfect harmony and generally spreading happiness and joy? My guess is never. Yes a person might achieve peace by the close of the film (or book), but what did it take to get there? I guarantee it was scene upon scene, chapter upon chapter of conflict and adversity. Fiction without conflict would be as dull as dishwater.

Sexual conflict. Men and women wouldn’t bother to interact whatsoever if it wasn’t for the libido (which in itself causes conflict between the body and the mind). The yin and yang of man and woman, the sexual tension of desire and speculation, the meeting of minds and the differing points-of-view: it all fulfils perfectly our inbuilt need for stimulating conflict. The sexual act itself is in many ways conflictual – peace only being found in the aftermath of orgasm (or not as the case may be).

Did I read somewhere that one third of the world is at war or involved in some conflict or other. You’d think that by this stage of our evolution we’d be beyond all this squabbling over borders, natural resources and the like. But no. Conflict still reigns supreme. Even those who vehemently oppose and protest against wars and conflicts are for all intents-and-purposes involved in (and in many ways enjoying) the conflict. And to top it off, most wars/conflicts are fought in the name of peace – how ironic.

Perhaps you disagree, but if you do, please take into account that an argument against the notion of ‘conflict being the eternal hobby of man’ will (in essence) be conflictual.

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