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Everyone knows the phrase that goes something like:
"As long as you did your best."
As long as you did your best, it doen'ts matter if you came second, or whatever. Well, to an extent that's true. But it's not always acceptable to have 'just done your best'.
Recently therer have been people complaining about GAD. Before we go any further I want to make it clear that this post is not having a go at those people, or the GAD system, I'm merely using that as an example to get my point across.
It's human nature to be upset when you don't win. If you don't win, it proves someone is better than you. Due to human behaviour, everyone likes to think they are better than everyone else, and there's nothing wrong with that. It introduces a competitive spirit where there may previously not have been one.
So where am I going with this?
Well, people who write "GAD attempts" may spend an hour or two, maybe more, researching what they are writing about, replaying the game so they can comment on all of it when they write thier review. They submit it to the SR site and whether they actually say so or not, they hope it wins them GAD, they believe it can win. They believe that they are, or at least what they have written, is better than everything else that day.
Why?
Because THEY are the one that spent 2 hours (maybe more?) researching, writing, re-reading, perfecting their post to get it right. Why should some crappy review win when I put all that effort in? They think.
Ok, so far, so GAD arguement/complaint.
So what if we relate this to something else, like music? I suspect that Goatboy wouldn't be to pleased if EVERY person he asks, says they didn't like his bands music. If a couple of people say they don't like it, fair enough, maybe it's not their kind of thing. But if EVERYONE says thet don't like it, I suspect he wouldn't be too impressed. Why? Because him and his mates spend, I'd imagine, a good few hours per week practising and writing new stuff. They put a lot of effort in, and I imagine they'd like to see some return, some people to say "Yeah, thats good that is."
I'm still no where near gaming. But it's not that far away.
Don't you think developers would like some recognition for the work they put in? Even if a game is not particulalry good, a number of people have spent a lot of time and effort working on that project, and I'd imagine they would like a return, like Goatboy, like the people who write "GAD attampts".
I know how they feel. I made a couple of levels for Quake 1, I took them around my mates house (who had 2 computers networked) to play them. He said they were crap, he said he'd played a lot of other levels that were better than the ones I'd done. I was VERY annoyed. Did he know the time and effort (theres that word again!) that I'd put into them! Git! Thats what went through my mind.
But when I looked at them from a different point of view, an unbiased point of view, I realised he was right. They were rubbish, but because I'd put all that time and work in, learning how the editor worked, trying different things to see which one worked best, I wasn't prepared to believe they were rubbish.
So next time you play a game, even if it's MS Train Sim, please think of all the time and work that went into making that game happen. A lot of people put tremendous effort into making games, please respect that.
"As long as you did your best."
As long as you did your best, it doen'ts matter if you came second, or whatever. Well, to an extent that's true. But it's not always acceptable to have 'just done your best'.
Recently therer have been people complaining about GAD. Before we go any further I want to make it clear that this post is not having a go at those people, or the GAD system, I'm merely using that as an example to get my point across.
It's human nature to be upset when you don't win. If you don't win, it proves someone is better than you. Due to human behaviour, everyone likes to think they are better than everyone else, and there's nothing wrong with that. It introduces a competitive spirit where there may previously not have been one.
So where am I going with this?
Well, people who write "GAD attempts" may spend an hour or two, maybe more, researching what they are writing about, replaying the game so they can comment on all of it when they write thier review. They submit it to the SR site and whether they actually say so or not, they hope it wins them GAD, they believe it can win. They believe that they are, or at least what they have written, is better than everything else that day.
Why?
Because THEY are the one that spent 2 hours (maybe more?) researching, writing, re-reading, perfecting their post to get it right. Why should some crappy review win when I put all that effort in? They think.
Ok, so far, so GAD arguement/complaint.
So what if we relate this to something else, like music? I suspect that Goatboy wouldn't be to pleased if EVERY person he asks, says they didn't like his bands music. If a couple of people say they don't like it, fair enough, maybe it's not their kind of thing. But if EVERYONE says thet don't like it, I suspect he wouldn't be too impressed. Why? Because him and his mates spend, I'd imagine, a good few hours per week practising and writing new stuff. They put a lot of effort in, and I imagine they'd like to see some return, some people to say "Yeah, thats good that is."
I'm still no where near gaming. But it's not that far away.
Don't you think developers would like some recognition for the work they put in? Even if a game is not particulalry good, a number of people have spent a lot of time and effort working on that project, and I'd imagine they would like a return, like Goatboy, like the people who write "GAD attampts".
I know how they feel. I made a couple of levels for Quake 1, I took them around my mates house (who had 2 computers networked) to play them. He said they were crap, he said he'd played a lot of other levels that were better than the ones I'd done. I was VERY annoyed. Did he know the time and effort (theres that word again!) that I'd put into them! Git! Thats what went through my mind.
But when I looked at them from a different point of view, an unbiased point of view, I realised he was right. They were rubbish, but because I'd put all that time and work in, learning how the editor worked, trying different things to see which one worked best, I wasn't prepared to believe they were rubbish.
So next time you play a game, even if it's MS Train Sim, please think of all the time and work that went into making that game happen. A lot of people put tremendous effort into making games, please respect that.
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Ok, good topic. Right, I'm going to take the chance and expand on GAD a bit.
- You can only win or lose if you are in a competition.
So, how do you beat that? Don't be competitive, obviously. Just write because you can, not because you want to win. I stopped writing to win on something like my fourth gad, or something, sorry, not boasting, it's just by that time I realised these forums for what they were, and a lot of people still have to realise that too.
Your Honour, sorry again for taking this down this route.
Anyway, these forums aren't about games anymore, at least to a lot of people. These forums are about fun, writing away your troubles, and that little chunk of respect for the thing that you do. Which happily brings me back to Your Honour's main point, hurrah!
But I'm not going to expand on it, sorry. :D
- You can only win or lose if you are in a competition.
So, how do you beat that? Don't be competitive, obviously. Just write because you can, not because you want to win. I stopped writing to win on something like my fourth gad, or something, sorry, not boasting, it's just by that time I realised these forums for what they were, and a lot of people still have to realise that too.
Your Honour, sorry again for taking this down this route.
Anyway, these forums aren't about games anymore, at least to a lot of people. These forums are about fun, writing away your troubles, and that little chunk of respect for the thing that you do. Which happily brings me back to Your Honour's main point, hurrah!
But I'm not going to expand on it, sorry. :D
Heh heh. Soon, when everyone least expects it, they will ALL come out.
DeltaJava wrote:
> You don't mean BetaJava?
*Spots Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, Nivelo and OmegaJava*
ARGHHH!!! An army of Java's!!!!
> You don't mean BetaJava?
*Spots Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, Nivelo and OmegaJava*
ARGHHH!!! An army of Java's!!!!
You don't mean BetaJava?
I wrote:
Hurrah for BJ!!
Oops, I hope that post didn't convery my thoughts at that moment...
:-D
sorry, typo error!
Hurrah for BJ!!
Oops, I hope that post didn't convery my thoughts at that moment...
:-D
sorry, typo error!
DeltaJava wrote:
> Ok then, I'll modify my future posts, and make them more
> "humanised".
Hurrah for BJ!!
> Ok then, I'll modify my future posts, and make them more
> "humanised".
Hurrah for BJ!!
Ok then, I'll modify my future posts, and make them more "humanised".
DeltaJava wrote:
How do you mean by
> "manufactured"? All the topics I'm cuirrently writing
> have no emotion in them to avoid bias.
It's just like they're not putting THEMSELEVES into the message.
"Writing is only when one leaves a part of ones self everytime one dips one's pen in the inkwell"
can't remember who,( I think it was Dostoievsky but I can't rememebr) said that, when you see manufactored posts that are their just to win, the above doesn't happen and it gives off a crappy aura about the post.
How do you mean by
> "manufactured"? All the topics I'm cuirrently writing
> have no emotion in them to avoid bias.
It's just like they're not putting THEMSELEVES into the message.
"Writing is only when one leaves a part of ones self everytime one dips one's pen in the inkwell"
can't remember who,( I think it was Dostoievsky but I can't rememebr) said that, when you see manufactored posts that are their just to win, the above doesn't happen and it gives off a crappy aura about the post.
RastaBillySkank wrote:
Anyway, when you see a post
> that's manufactored to in GAD it gives off a fake feel. You can see
> that the person writing isn't putting any emotion into his/her post
> they're just writing to win.
How do you mean by "manufactured"? All the topics I'm cuirrently writing have no emotion in them to avoid bias.
Anyway, when you see a post
> that's manufactored to in GAD it gives off a fake feel. You can see
> that the person writing isn't putting any emotion into his/her post
> they're just writing to win.
How do you mean by "manufactured"? All the topics I'm cuirrently writing have no emotion in them to avoid bias.
The main problem with games is that people (or a lot of people do anyway), only buy the games for what it can give them, which they have every right to. They but this game, and it turns out to be crap. The first thoughts that jump through their minds is ,"my god, how crap", and things like that. I expect gamers don't really sit back and think about the developers role in this, at least not at first anyway. To be honest I don't either. The main thought would be,"I spent forty quid on this peice of trash". It's a shame, it's a damn shame.
Just imagine how developers feel when they read a magazine and see their games reviewed, and getting a mark near on zero. All that hard work and 'effort' for nothing.
Is there anything we can do about it? To be honest, I don't really know. If the developers felt that their work was appreciated, then their games would probably get better and better.
Just imagine how developers feel when they read a magazine and see their games reviewed, and getting a mark near on zero. All that hard work and 'effort' for nothing.
Is there anything we can do about it? To be honest, I don't really know. If the developers felt that their work was appreciated, then their games would probably get better and better.
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