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Thu 26/07/01 at 15:05
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Everyone knows the phrase that goes something like:

"As long as you did your best."

As long as you did your best, it doen'ts matter if you came second, or whatever. Well, to an extent that's true. But it's not always acceptable to have 'just done your best'.

Recently therer have been people complaining about GAD. Before we go any further I want to make it clear that this post is not having a go at those people, or the GAD system, I'm merely using that as an example to get my point across.

It's human nature to be upset when you don't win. If you don't win, it proves someone is better than you. Due to human behaviour, everyone likes to think they are better than everyone else, and there's nothing wrong with that. It introduces a competitive spirit where there may previously not have been one.

So where am I going with this?

Well, people who write "GAD attempts" may spend an hour or two, maybe more, researching what they are writing about, replaying the game so they can comment on all of it when they write thier review. They submit it to the SR site and whether they actually say so or not, they hope it wins them GAD, they believe it can win. They believe that they are, or at least what they have written, is better than everything else that day.

Why?

Because THEY are the one that spent 2 hours (maybe more?) researching, writing, re-reading, perfecting their post to get it right. Why should some crappy review win when I put all that effort in? They think.

Ok, so far, so GAD arguement/complaint.

So what if we relate this to something else, like music? I suspect that Goatboy wouldn't be to pleased if EVERY person he asks, says they didn't like his bands music. If a couple of people say they don't like it, fair enough, maybe it's not their kind of thing. But if EVERYONE says thet don't like it, I suspect he wouldn't be too impressed. Why? Because him and his mates spend, I'd imagine, a good few hours per week practising and writing new stuff. They put a lot of effort in, and I imagine they'd like to see some return, some people to say "Yeah, thats good that is."

I'm still no where near gaming. But it's not that far away.

Don't you think developers would like some recognition for the work they put in? Even if a game is not particulalry good, a number of people have spent a lot of time and effort working on that project, and I'd imagine they would like a return, like Goatboy, like the people who write "GAD attampts".

I know how they feel. I made a couple of levels for Quake 1, I took them around my mates house (who had 2 computers networked) to play them. He said they were crap, he said he'd played a lot of other levels that were better than the ones I'd done. I was VERY annoyed. Did he know the time and effort (theres that word again!) that I'd put into them! Git! Thats what went through my mind.

But when I looked at them from a different point of view, an unbiased point of view, I realised he was right. They were rubbish, but because I'd put all that time and work in, learning how the editor worked, trying different things to see which one worked best, I wasn't prepared to believe they were rubbish.

So next time you play a game, even if it's MS Train Sim, please think of all the time and work that went into making that game happen. A lot of people put tremendous effort into making games, please respect that.
Sun 29/07/01 at 10:58
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Your Honour wrote:
> Everyone knows the phrase that goes something like:

"As long
> as you did your best."

As long as you did your best, it
> doen'ts matter if you came second, or whatever. Well, to an extent
> that's true. But it's not always acceptable to have 'just done your
> best'.

"Losers do 'their best' - winners go home and fun the prom queen" Sean Connery - The Rock


> Well, people
> who write "GAD attempts" may spend an hour or two, maybe
> more, researching what they are writing about,

How about 20 years of research? Ever since I've been playing games, I felt that I've had enough know how to write about them....


And to finish I'd like to give this post a B+ for effort and an A- for achievement.
Sun 29/07/01 at 00:30
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Hmmm.
Sun 29/07/01 at 00:26
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Princess Peach kissed Mario's phallic nose at the end of Mario64. I thought it was pornographic!
Sun 29/07/01 at 00:22
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Me too, seeing as I've completed the game.

:-)
Sat 28/07/01 at 23:07
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
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How anyone can stand Mario is beyond me. If someone game me a copy of Mario 64 I'd sell it.

Yes, developers do spend a lot of time on games, but some just scream poor at you.
Sat 28/07/01 at 23:03
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I appreciate the fact that many developers spend hours making games and when we dish them out of hand its wrong. Ive seen people on this site dish great games like Mario64 when theyve only played the game for half an hour! The moral is to only dish a game when youve played it for a while.

The same applys to dishing the Xbox and GameCube before theyre released!


However saying a game is rubbish when youve played it, and thats your honest opinion is fine! After all games are expensive and people spend a lot of money buying them,.. this means they have a right to know if the game is rubbish!
Sat 28/07/01 at 22:48
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"Eff, you see, kay?"
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GasMask wrote:
> Even if it's a pile of what comes out your rear end effort still had
> to be put in it.


3D0 churn out a Army Men title every month. Go figure.
Sat 28/07/01 at 19:46
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this should win gameaday
Sat 28/07/01 at 10:39
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Even if it's a pile of what comes out your rear end effort still had to be put in it.
Fri 27/07/01 at 16:31
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Your Honour wrote:


Ok, we (well, mainly
> Goatboy :-)) slate MS Train Sim, but some people out there will like
> it, and the amount of work thats gone in to re-creating it all in
> detail must be tremendous.


Ah, but I haven't slated the people that made it,I had a go at the mitten wearing, soft food eating toefaces that want to play a train-sim.

And it's number 4 on the SR PC chart.

Odd.
But then "You've Been Framed" is on every week, so never underestimate the intellect of the average person.

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