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Ben Spies is to remain in WSBK for next year with Yamaha before switching to MotoGP (probably with Tech 3) in 2011.This has got to be good news for Edwards and Toseland who are both desperate to stay with the team for another year.Most bike racing fans appreciate Mr.Spies is just a little bit good and totally deserves to be in the premier class.But Yamaha have never won a WSBK title and he is by far their best chance to change that.Cant believe teams have failed to notice the enormously improved Alex De Angelis or the very impressive Hiroshi Aoyama.Who along with Marco Simoncelli (who is joining the series with Gresini Honda next year) has been one of the strongest rider in 250's.He seems to have been loyal to Honda throughout his career and being Japanese wont exactly hurt his chances either !.Reckon he will be end up on a satellite bike (LCR maybe ?).See Rossi's off to a flyer in Misano,he is going to be desperate to leave there with his points lead intact.
Numnut where are you man ?,missed you on here ! :)
Numnut where are you man ?,missed you on here ! :)
Really enjoyed the racing yesterday, missed the 125s but caught the last half of the 250s.
Really thought someone would be off in the last few laps - glad they weren't - but great racing.
I agree with you Pete, Aoyama is going to end up in MotoGP - LCR was making noises hinting at a second bike for next year and Toselands' manager said something about a new team too, so I'd imagine there may be at least one bike next year for Aoyama.
The GP was good again - though I wouldn't want to be de angelis at the moment.
I really thought Hayden was going to floor him after that - I'm sure he thought about it! I think Lorenzo did well to hold on after his back wheel was clipped too, could have been a very different race.
At least 'the donkey' managed to do himself proud and put Lorenzo in his place again. Some good battles going on through the field as well. Thought maybe JT might have done a little better than tenth but being behind vermeulen, capirossi etc isn't anything to be embarrassed about.
I'm glad that Hayden is confirmed for next year too, was really disappointed for him that he didn't get to race yesterday.
Did anyone see the WSB yesterday, that was some close racing too. A bit of a controversial pass for the lead by our very own Jonny Rea too - who actually went on to win so it all worked out well.
Really thought someone would be off in the last few laps - glad they weren't - but great racing.
I agree with you Pete, Aoyama is going to end up in MotoGP - LCR was making noises hinting at a second bike for next year and Toselands' manager said something about a new team too, so I'd imagine there may be at least one bike next year for Aoyama.
The GP was good again - though I wouldn't want to be de angelis at the moment.
I really thought Hayden was going to floor him after that - I'm sure he thought about it! I think Lorenzo did well to hold on after his back wheel was clipped too, could have been a very different race.
At least 'the donkey' managed to do himself proud and put Lorenzo in his place again. Some good battles going on through the field as well. Thought maybe JT might have done a little better than tenth but being behind vermeulen, capirossi etc isn't anything to be embarrassed about.
I'm glad that Hayden is confirmed for next year too, was really disappointed for him that he didn't get to race yesterday.
Did anyone see the WSB yesterday, that was some close racing too. A bit of a controversial pass for the lead by our very own Jonny Rea too - who actually went on to win so it all worked out well.
Yeah,reckon Honda will help LCR out with running a second bike if Aoyama is going to be on it.He deserves a chance IMO,he's been very fast and totally consistent this year and its fair to say he hasn't been on the best bike.All the other 250 Honda's have been nowhere and he has been winning races and leading the championship on the thing.Last guy to that in 250's was Pedrosa.He's very fast,rarely makes mistakes,is loyal to Honda,will probably be 250cc World champion and Japanese.That's all boxes ticked ! :)
Oh,if you hear him being interviewed he's funny as well.
Yamaha are rumoured to have offered Spies the chance to come to MotoGP a year early if he bags this years WSBK title.If its true then that's not good news at all for Toseland.There are too many riders and not enough bikes for next year which is not an ideal situation.Hope I'm wrong,but I don't fancy his chances TBH.
Regarding De Angelis (or D'Angerous as some people are now calling him !),yeah,he undid all of his impressive work in about 150 yards !.He has been on fire for the last 2 rounds and goes and blows it with a stupid move like that.Still,both Gresini riders have been very fast recently and neither currently have a job for next year.
Saw the WSBK race,Rea's move was hard but fair IMO.Shame Haga fell off though,can understand why he was unhappy.Just one of those things,happens in racing,especially at this level.What about Crutchlow in WSS winning by 10 secs !,that guy is on fire at the moment.Fully deserves a Moto 2/WSBK ride for next year.Personally I hope he goes to Moto 2,I think its going to a fantastic championship and the bikes should suit him being similar to a Supersport machine.Reckon its the best route to MotoGP and he has made no secret of his desire to get there.
Kiyonari and Hill are back for the next BSB race at Croft.That should be interesting,be nice to see Camier have at least some competition !.Not sure what is going on with Kiyonari this year he has been bafflingly crap.
Oh,if you hear him being interviewed he's funny as well.
Yamaha are rumoured to have offered Spies the chance to come to MotoGP a year early if he bags this years WSBK title.If its true then that's not good news at all for Toseland.There are too many riders and not enough bikes for next year which is not an ideal situation.Hope I'm wrong,but I don't fancy his chances TBH.
Regarding De Angelis (or D'Angerous as some people are now calling him !),yeah,he undid all of his impressive work in about 150 yards !.He has been on fire for the last 2 rounds and goes and blows it with a stupid move like that.Still,both Gresini riders have been very fast recently and neither currently have a job for next year.
Saw the WSBK race,Rea's move was hard but fair IMO.Shame Haga fell off though,can understand why he was unhappy.Just one of those things,happens in racing,especially at this level.What about Crutchlow in WSS winning by 10 secs !,that guy is on fire at the moment.Fully deserves a Moto 2/WSBK ride for next year.Personally I hope he goes to Moto 2,I think its going to a fantastic championship and the bikes should suit him being similar to a Supersport machine.Reckon its the best route to MotoGP and he has made no secret of his desire to get there.
Kiyonari and Hill are back for the next BSB race at Croft.That should be interesting,be nice to see Camier have at least some competition !.Not sure what is going on with Kiyonari this year he has been bafflingly crap.
pete_21 wrote:
> Numnut where are you man ?,missed you on here ! :)
Well deserved holiday mate, I meant to post something so the thread wasn't abandoned, but I ran out of time.....! glad to see you've kept it going though, you even managed to get Warhunt involved!
With what the BBC were saying about the tech3 ride over the weekend it sounds like JT will be in the dark until Ben Spies either wins or doesn't win the WSB title. If that's the case I think I'd cut my losses and just find myself a ride for next year. It doesn't seem very fair keeping him hanging on until its convenient for them to decide.
I hate to admit it but I forwarded through the Supersport race at the weekend, might still have it on the sky+ though so should be able to give it a watch.
I was a bit gutted for Camier in the BSB over the bank holiday - though I find it hard to believe a professional racer was confused about what a particular flag meant. Still you're right he does need some competition, hopefully guintoli will be back on form next race. Isnt' Josh brookes back too? Best all keep a look out over their shoulders!
> Numnut where are you man ?,missed you on here ! :)
Well deserved holiday mate, I meant to post something so the thread wasn't abandoned, but I ran out of time.....! glad to see you've kept it going though, you even managed to get Warhunt involved!
With what the BBC were saying about the tech3 ride over the weekend it sounds like JT will be in the dark until Ben Spies either wins or doesn't win the WSB title. If that's the case I think I'd cut my losses and just find myself a ride for next year. It doesn't seem very fair keeping him hanging on until its convenient for them to decide.
I hate to admit it but I forwarded through the Supersport race at the weekend, might still have it on the sky+ though so should be able to give it a watch.
I was a bit gutted for Camier in the BSB over the bank holiday - though I find it hard to believe a professional racer was confused about what a particular flag meant. Still you're right he does need some competition, hopefully guintoli will be back on form next race. Isnt' Josh brookes back too? Best all keep a look out over their shoulders!
Numnut wrote:
glad to see you've kept it going though, you even managed to get Warhunt involved !
'If we build it he will come !' :)
Numnut wrote:
Isnt' Josh brookes back too? Best all keep a look out over their shoulders!
That made me laugh !.
His 'accident' with Guintoli was one of most bizzare things I have ever seen in motor racing.Breaking someone's leg on a warm up lap is just mental !.
Yeah,reckon Camier knew exactly what he was doing in race 2 at Cadwell.He just thought he may get away with it.Not exactly going to halt his championship charge though is it ?.
Agree,Yamaha's treatment of Toseland is a bit mean.Keeping him hanging on is not really fair.Everyone knows Spies is exceptionally good and Yamaha will clearly want him in MotoGP as soon as they can feasibly get him there.I would like to see Toseland on a satellite Honda next year if there's one available (Scot/LCR may be possibles ?).He may get on a bit better with that ?.I just fear he may not get the chance.
Regarding the WSS race,you didn't miss much.Its just Crutchlow looked like he was on a Superbike !.He made the rest of the field look absolutely mediocre.Winning in that category by 10 seconds is virtually unheard of.An absolutely crushing display which hopefully will have done his job prospects for next year no harm at all.
Anyway,hope you had a nice break mate.Four weeks until the next MotoGP race,that sucks :(
glad to see you've kept it going though, you even managed to get Warhunt involved !
'If we build it he will come !' :)
Numnut wrote:
Isnt' Josh brookes back too? Best all keep a look out over their shoulders!
That made me laugh !.
His 'accident' with Guintoli was one of most bizzare things I have ever seen in motor racing.Breaking someone's leg on a warm up lap is just mental !.
Yeah,reckon Camier knew exactly what he was doing in race 2 at Cadwell.He just thought he may get away with it.Not exactly going to halt his championship charge though is it ?.
Agree,Yamaha's treatment of Toseland is a bit mean.Keeping him hanging on is not really fair.Everyone knows Spies is exceptionally good and Yamaha will clearly want him in MotoGP as soon as they can feasibly get him there.I would like to see Toseland on a satellite Honda next year if there's one available (Scot/LCR may be possibles ?).He may get on a bit better with that ?.I just fear he may not get the chance.
Regarding the WSS race,you didn't miss much.Its just Crutchlow looked like he was on a Superbike !.He made the rest of the field look absolutely mediocre.Winning in that category by 10 seconds is virtually unheard of.An absolutely crushing display which hopefully will have done his job prospects for next year no harm at all.
Anyway,hope you had a nice break mate.Four weeks until the next MotoGP race,that sucks :(
Just read this,very interesting.
Pedrosa admits to chasing Yamaha ride
Obviously Lorenzo resigning killed any chance of that happening but I thought it was a strange thing for him to admit to.Obviously all is not so rosy behind closed doors at HRC when their star rider admits he tried to leave because the bike is simply not good enough.A few years ago Pedrosa was being hyped as the next big thing (no pun intended !) and he is without doubt one of the fastest guys in MotoGP but I think the fact he has not won a title yet maybe starting to get to him a little bit.
Thought this article was just as interesting :
HRC would welcome Stoner and Rossi back
Thought this was also a very strange comment to make.Not so much Stoner as he only had one year on a satellite bike but Rossi famously did his ball and chain routine when Honda tried to stop him leaving.There is a very interesting section on this period in Rossi's autobiography where he says he was sick and tired of life at Honda where the machinery got all of the credit and the rider was just made to feel like a component off the bike.I thinks its fair to say since he left the once dominant HRC have not enjoyed anything like the same level of success.Honda suggesting they would happily have him back is very interesting indeed.
Pedrosa admits to chasing Yamaha ride
Obviously Lorenzo resigning killed any chance of that happening but I thought it was a strange thing for him to admit to.Obviously all is not so rosy behind closed doors at HRC when their star rider admits he tried to leave because the bike is simply not good enough.A few years ago Pedrosa was being hyped as the next big thing (no pun intended !) and he is without doubt one of the fastest guys in MotoGP but I think the fact he has not won a title yet maybe starting to get to him a little bit.
Thought this article was just as interesting :
HRC would welcome Stoner and Rossi back
Thought this was also a very strange comment to make.Not so much Stoner as he only had one year on a satellite bike but Rossi famously did his ball and chain routine when Honda tried to stop him leaving.There is a very interesting section on this period in Rossi's autobiography where he says he was sick and tired of life at Honda where the machinery got all of the credit and the rider was just made to feel like a component off the bike.I thinks its fair to say since he left the once dominant HRC have not enjoyed anything like the same level of success.Honda suggesting they would happily have him back is very interesting indeed.
pete_21 wrote:
> Just read this,very interesting.
>
Pedrosa admits to chasing Yamaha ride
You can't blame him really, but it does seem a strange thing to come out with once you have signed a deal with another company.
As good as Pedrosa is, I get the impression he is a bit of a spoilt brat behind closed doors, his manager Alberto Puig doesn't rank too highly in the popularity stakes either.
>HRC would welcome Stoner and Rossi back
I bet they would! I'm sure any team would bend over backwards for those two. Even Kawasaki might return to the series if they had an offer like that!
Though i do find Honda a bit arrogant suggesting that it is only machinery that wins races. By that logic I could sit on one of their machines and stomp to victory.........in reality I would be on the starting grid on my backside having wheelied uncontrollably with all the power! - if I didn't stall.
>I would like to see Toseland on a satellite Honda
Me too, I don't think JT really gels with the Yam. I think another manufacturer is they way to go. If Scot get another bike it'll belong to Aoyama, though if LCR do, there's going be a bit of a fight for that one I think - haven't got a clue where vermeulen is going to end up!
> Just read this,very interesting.
>
Pedrosa admits to chasing Yamaha ride
You can't blame him really, but it does seem a strange thing to come out with once you have signed a deal with another company.
As good as Pedrosa is, I get the impression he is a bit of a spoilt brat behind closed doors, his manager Alberto Puig doesn't rank too highly in the popularity stakes either.
>HRC would welcome Stoner and Rossi back
I bet they would! I'm sure any team would bend over backwards for those two. Even Kawasaki might return to the series if they had an offer like that!
Though i do find Honda a bit arrogant suggesting that it is only machinery that wins races. By that logic I could sit on one of their machines and stomp to victory.........in reality I would be on the starting grid on my backside having wheelied uncontrollably with all the power! - if I didn't stall.
>I would like to see Toseland on a satellite Honda
Me too, I don't think JT really gels with the Yam. I think another manufacturer is they way to go. If Scot get another bike it'll belong to Aoyama, though if LCR do, there's going be a bit of a fight for that one I think - haven't got a clue where vermeulen is going to end up!
Heard an interview with Nicky Hayden a couple of years ago,don't think much of it could be repeated on here though !.Although Hayden won the 2006 championship,remember him on the 2007 bike ?,he couldn't even fit on the damn thing !.Honda strenuously denied they had designed the bike for pint sized Pedrosa and when Nicky was asked about it he seemed to be pointing the finger in Puig's direction.Chief sponsor Repsol are a Spanish company so maybe Puig has some clout from that direction ?.Whatever,it does seem he is generally not a very popular person around the MotoGP paddock.
Regarding Pedrosa,I agree with you.Behind closed doors I would not be surprised of some toys being seriously being flung out of the pram when things are not going his way.I can imagine all the mega serious Japanese guys looking on bewildered as he spits his dummy !.But when that Honda is hooked up he can be bloody quick.
Regarding Pedrosa,I agree with you.Behind closed doors I would not be surprised of some toys being seriously being flung out of the pram when things are not going his way.I can imagine all the mega serious Japanese guys looking on bewildered as he spits his dummy !.But when that Honda is hooked up he can be bloody quick.
Just seen this :
New team set for Valencia 2009 Debut
Seems a ballsy move ,respect to them if its true.They would be the only fully private team in the series.Making your own bike and engine to take on the likes of Honda,Yamaha & Ducati is what a call a challenge.Seem to recall Ilmor and Proton trying similar projects and failing big time with them.If its true,hope it works out for them and anymore bikes coming to the series has got to be good news.
This weekend Colin Edwards apparently told SpeedTV that he is '99.9% sure' he will have a different team mate next season.So its looking like an all Texan line up at Tech 3 next year then ?.Pramac Ducati may be an option for Toseland ?,they will keep Kallio for sure but Canepa (or what ever his name is) has been pretty rubbish.Don't forget Toseland did win one of his WSBK titles on a Duke (and Pramac have already fired Elias once,so doubt he'll go there).You never know the Ducati may even suit him ?.Hayden seems to be getting the hang of the beast recently,which will be encouraging for other riders to see.He has certainly fared better on it than Melandri did.Stranger things have happened.
New team set for Valencia 2009 Debut
Seems a ballsy move ,respect to them if its true.They would be the only fully private team in the series.Making your own bike and engine to take on the likes of Honda,Yamaha & Ducati is what a call a challenge.Seem to recall Ilmor and Proton trying similar projects and failing big time with them.If its true,hope it works out for them and anymore bikes coming to the series has got to be good news.
This weekend Colin Edwards apparently told SpeedTV that he is '99.9% sure' he will have a different team mate next season.So its looking like an all Texan line up at Tech 3 next year then ?.Pramac Ducati may be an option for Toseland ?,they will keep Kallio for sure but Canepa (or what ever his name is) has been pretty rubbish.Don't forget Toseland did win one of his WSBK titles on a Duke (and Pramac have already fired Elias once,so doubt he'll go there).You never know the Ducati may even suit him ?.Hayden seems to be getting the hang of the beast recently,which will be encouraging for other riders to see.He has certainly fared better on it than Melandri did.Stranger things have happened.
Guys (or just Numnut !),you have to see this video its mental ! :
Ben Spies Promotional Video
Absolutely brilliant,could you imagine an F1 driver or any other top sportsman making something like this ?.
Ben Spies Promotional Video
Absolutely brilliant,could you imagine an F1 driver or any other top sportsman making something like this ?.
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