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I rank Bruckheimer next to Stephen Segal and Jean Claude Van Damme in terms of annoying.
As for the Jet li comments, I agree with you, his Western films have been utter toss. Same goes for Chow Yun fat and Jackie Chan, compare something like 'The One' or 'Rush Hour' to some of their early work and you'll find it's Western ideals that have f***ed them up.
I just wish all the Asian film stars would stop seeking fame in the West and just stick to making the type of films that they're good at.
> Where as Blackhawk down takes a real life event and turns into another "America's the best" pile of patriotic toss.
Eh?
I take it you haven't seen Black Hawk Down then. The fact that it was American Marines that were involved in that particular incident. Its films like Pearl Harbour that have allowed American's to re-write history in a BS manner. Black Hawk Down tells it as it happens. There is no happy ending, American Marines lost their lives for being sent into an impossible situation. Its not a bloody action film like The Rock where its all made up.
> I "laugh in your face" if you can honestly compare something
> like Black Hawk Down to some cheap Japanese action film like Hard
> Boiled.
*resists urge to swear constantly at Alistair*
You ignorant muppet, you really have no bloody clue do you?
I give up, how can you even think about comparing a big budget piece of patriotic bullsh*t like 'Blackhawk down' to a cult classic like 'Hard Boiled'?
End of conversation, I've had enough of your foolish ways. Next thing you're gonna be trying to tell me that Jerry Bruckheimer is a better director than John Woo.
If it was just the odd one I could liv with it. However every time I turn the TV on there is some BS starring Jet Li as a super human Dinasaur or something totally ridiculous.
Black Hawk Down tried to re-create a REAL LIFE EVENT. It wasn't meant to be full of cheesy dialouge and BS stunts.
Classic films like Die Hard are completely different, they aren't bloody real for starters.
If you actually read the book Black Hawk Down for the actual events you will realise what they went through. Its bloody ignorant of you to expect some sort of cheap thrills film from something so tradgic.
Urrrrrrr
One last thing, if it wasn't for 'Hard Boiled' you would have no Max Payne.
18 young American soldiers lost their lives and thats all the film shows. There is no patriotic BS about it. The film doesn't make the American's look extra special in any way.
>The amount of BS that I have seen over the years from Jet Li amongst >thers I can't honestly think of a series of
> action films from the same Producer which lived up to some of
> Bruckheimer's early work on films like The Rock and Con Air.
Sacrilege and blasphemy, you philistine!
The Shaolin Temple starring Jet-Li is one of the finest martial arts films to ever grace the earth.
Con Air was rubbish, The Rock was his only decent film.
> One last thing, if it wasn't for 'Hard Boiled' you would have no Max
> Payne.
Bullet time was John Woo's original idea. Even if he hadn't released Hard Boiled doesn't mean that he wouldn't have gone on to use it in one of his later films.