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Tue 15/02/05 at 17:05
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"8==="
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Here follows a very simplified perspective:

It's difficult to understand how people now vote Tory. I assume the main cause is selfishness and a possible kneejerk reaction that's somehow carried on jerking for 30 years in some people.

There are so many reasons not to vote for them even as a protest vote.

1) They usually go on about lowering taxes. This is not always a great thing especially coming from a party that has run down the NHS and privatised off a lot of things that worked better before they were privatised.

2) Major privatisation (see 1)

3) Trust. They are the least trustworthy party, they haven't changed - underneath it's still the same party of crooks who'd sell their grandmother.

4) Backwards attitudes. Thankfully this appears to be costing them even more voters (even from their hardcore set) with their proposals to scrutinize foreign wives of british citizens.

5) They haven't changed (see 3). It's the same party underneath and (hopefully) no promise of taxcuts is going to persuade people to vote for a party that's caused many of the problem society still struggles with today.

6) Whatever Labour's mistakes you just know the Tories would have made worse ones. Labour's the lesser of two evils.

7) The Liberal Democrats are better for protest votes. They seem to be good caretakers and seem to make a good job of things (next to the other two anyway).


Anyway, these are obviously extremely simplified points, but I've made them in the interest of having a decent discussion.
Wed 16/02/05 at 12:31
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"Brooklyn boy"
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SHEEPY wrote:
> However, the Lib Dems managed to avoid the student fees in
> England/Wales so good on them. Our system seems fair - they pay it
> just now and we pay them back over a few years when we get a job.


i was thinking about this a while back, if i take out a massive student loan and then afterwards get a job in Canada and move over there, will i still have to pay that money back to the bank here in England?
Wed 16/02/05 at 12:34
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"Pouch Ape"
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KR wrote:
> Wasn't it them who wanted the legal drinking age to be 21 whilst they
> wanted the gay sex age to be lowered to 14?

No, that was you ahahaha huuuuuur
Wed 16/02/05 at 14:20
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"8==="
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Light wrote:
>
> Anyway, another good reason not to vote Tory; their current leader
> avoided answering a simple question on Newsnight something like 15
> times. That is still one of the greatest pieces of television in
> history...

But DID he threaten to over-rule him? :D
Wed 16/02/05 at 14:50
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"8==="
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Simplified reconstruction:

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Did you threaten to over-rule him?

Cancel your Xbox Live account you dumb twit fase says:
who

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Did you threaten to over-rule him?

Cancel your Xbox Live account you dumb twit fase says:
who

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Did you threaten to over-rule him?

Cancel your Xbox Live account you dumb twit fase says:
GHEY

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Did you threaten to over-rule him?

Cancel your Xbox Live account you dumb twit fase says:
ggggggay

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Did you threaten to over-rule him?

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Look Mr Howard answer the simple question:

Did you threaten to over-rule him?

Cancel your Xbox Live account you dumb twit fase says:
yes

Hedfix - www.hedfix.com says:
Did you really threaten to over-rule him?

Cancel your Xbox Live account you dumb twit fase says:
dont make me block you
Fri 18/02/05 at 11:19
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"Stay Frosty"
Posts: 742
Yes. Yes Yes, a thousand yes's to this thread. I'm New Labour through and through. And here's my message:

Even if your not going to vote Labour, please please please oh for the love of the creator of Fairy Liquid, please DON'T VOTE TORY!!! Please...
Sun 20/02/05 at 04:10
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"The Red Shift"
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Hedfix wrote:
> Light wrote:
> >
> Anyway, another good reason not to vote Tory; their current leader
> avoided answering a simple question on Newsnight something like 15
> times. That is still one of the greatest pieces of television in
> history...
>
> But DID he threaten to over-rule him? :D

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.

Every time I see the clip I can't help but burst into a fit of laughter.
Sun 20/02/05 at 04:16
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"The Red Shift"
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What ever happened to the Hedfix/Clazon MSN political debates???

:'{


There isn't a chance in hell that I would vote for a party run by Michael Howard. He was slime before and he's come back doesn't make me think he's any less slimy. It's a shame because his wife looks like a nice woman. Maybe he is a nice person inside, but I really doubt it. He has a family after all...

We've seen how the Torys screw things up and we've seen Labour rebuild England from the state it was left in. Although Labour screw up, they screw up less and less worse than the blue. Having said this, I wouldn't vote for New Labour.

I'm waiting for a new, true socialist party. Otherwise I'll start one.
:)
Fri 25/02/05 at 16:38
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Posts: 460
Do folk still vote Tory? I thought Tories went out with Mrs T Labour may have its faults but not as many as the Conservatives
Fri 25/02/05 at 16:42
"period drama"
Posts: 19,792
New Thread 1:
Reasons not to vote Labour

New Thread 2:
Reasions not to vote Lib Dem

Everything's terrible.
They should say right, that's enough lads, let's call it a day. Kill them all and make them start over again.

C- must try harder.
Fri 25/02/05 at 20:43
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Posts: 8,220
Reasons not to vote:

1) It's cold out

2) I don't know where the polling place is

3) I might have to re-register to change my constituancy

4) I can't be ashed

5) They're all lowlives

6) Nobody cares if I spoil my ballot

7) It'll pish off all the annoying people who whine endlessly about apathy.

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