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Hi guys my son at High school is currently learning all about VB Script and really enjoying it, he is using front page 2000 and word to build programs etc
He is wanting to do Java as well and wondered about java writing programs? is that the right term? what does he need to write Java? any advice for him much appreciated.
Kev
He is wanting to do Java as well and wondered about java writing programs? is that the right term? what does he need to write Java? any advice for him much appreciated.
Kev
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I agree with the non-IDE thing to start off with though. It'll save your skinny bacon in the future when your IDE messes up a day before the deadline.
I dont love java but I do believe in using the right tool for the job. And sometimes that is Java. Probably wouldn't use Java over C for speed critical applications, on the other hand the speed differences aren't that great anymore to matter in most circumstances.
I guess most of its popularity though stems from alot of schools/universities using it as a teaching tool now. They want to teach OO, and java is probably the easiest language to illustrate it.
I guess most of its popularity though stems from alot of schools/universities using it as a teaching tool now. They want to teach OO, and java is probably the easiest language to illustrate it.
RealJ is a great little tool, that's what we learnt java on at uni, fairly simple and straightforward.
It's a great language for learning. It takes care of memory allocation, doesn't use pointers, has automatic garbage collection and only uses single inheritance. And the big winner of course is that it can run on any platform, as long as you have the interpreter.
What is it that makes people love Java on here?
We have to do a bit of Java programming in A2 Computing, but at home I prefer using languages such as C, C++ and PHP.
Is it because it's very Object Orientated based?
In my experience Java apps tend to be quite slow!
We have to do a bit of Java programming in A2 Computing, but at home I prefer using languages such as C, C++ and PHP.
Is it because it's very Object Orientated based?
In my experience Java apps tend to be quite slow!
I tend to agree about not using an IDE at first, it just over complicates matters. And its good to get an understanding of how java works at a basic level first. IDEs are good for helping speed up development, but they do slow down learning sometimes.
[URL]http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/index.html[/URL] for Sun's tutorials on how to install & compile java programs.
[URL]http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/index.html[/URL] for Sun's tutorials on how to install & compile java programs.
Gosh its a lot to take in, he is 14 and has a good understanding of programming already he makes his own programmes! when I was 14 computers filled a room! and we did not have them at school, he is keen and thinks a career in programming is for him, so I will let him look at all these options put forward via this forum cheers folks.
I actually think you're better off beginning Java using as simple an environment as possible, rather than hiding the workings of the language behind an IDE, and introducing unnecessary complexities too early. Only my opinion, of course, but compiling by hand is quite good for you at first - and I found understanding packages, GUI construction etc much easier efter going back to basics.
Better yet is Borland's JBuilder.
It's free (personal edition) and makes programming in Java many times faster for those working with graphical user interfaces or large programs.
I've been programming heavily in Java for around 5 years, and I must say it's the best development environment I've found. If you want to do any serious projects, you'll want this.
If on the other hand, you're looking for something as easy to use as notepad but with more power, I highly recommend MED programmer's text editor. Besides displaying line numbers and colour-highlighted syntax, it also links up to the java compiler for instant compilation.
As for books, I recommend Sams Teach yourself Java in 21 days.
The java API (see sun's website) is also indespensinle. Sun'd website also has a hige number of java forums which give *very* quick and helpful responses
It's free (personal edition) and makes programming in Java many times faster for those working with graphical user interfaces or large programs.
I've been programming heavily in Java for around 5 years, and I must say it's the best development environment I've found. If you want to do any serious projects, you'll want this.
If on the other hand, you're looking for something as easy to use as notepad but with more power, I highly recommend MED programmer's text editor. Besides displaying line numbers and colour-highlighted syntax, it also links up to the java compiler for instant compilation.
As for books, I recommend Sams Teach yourself Java in 21 days.
The java API (see sun's website) is also indespensinle. Sun'd website also has a hige number of java forums which give *very* quick and helpful responses
A very good, and entirely free in electronic form, book on Java is Bruce Eckel's Thinking In Java: [URL]http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/[/URL]. It's fairly in depth, and it helps if you already have some programming knowledge, but in terms of really understanding the language you can't do much better. If you need help on anything Java related, no matter how small and stupid it may seem, then JavaRanch.com ([URL]http://www.javaranch.com[/URL]) is a great website: it has an excellent beginner's guide and the friendliest and most helpful forums I've ever seen for a language.
I use Textpad to write my Java programs with, which is just a text editor. I haven't tried RealJ but a good, free development environment that I have used is JCreator.
I use Textpad to write my Java programs with, which is just a text editor. I haven't tried RealJ but a good, free development environment that I have used is JCreator.
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