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Tue 31/08/04 at 09:35
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What do you think of my website? [URL]http://www.oldbishopsgate.tk[/URL] You'll probably think it's really bad, but it is the first site I've ever done.
Tue 31/08/04 at 12:01
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Timmargh wrote:
> And don't take the derogatory comments to heart - some of the people
> on here are heartless!

I'm having a good day today. lol.
Tue 31/08/04 at 11:42
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gamesfreak wrote:
> But we all have to start somewhere aye?

Well said, that man.

I find a good way to get ideas (because I am crap is simply to browse other sites and look at how they've laid things out - don't just rip off their design, but try out similar ideas.

Like Tyla said: doing HTML by hand is a lot easier than you may think and it'll help you in the long run. When you're looking for ideas on other sites, have a look at the code (View -> Source) - some sites will probably be confusing and look a mess, but some will have comments next to stuff helping you to see how they've done what they've done.

And don't take the derogatory comments to heart - some of the people on here are heartless!
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:43
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Tue 31/08/04 at 10:41
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The photocenter is good.

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Ahahahaahhahhah wonderful.
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:38
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What's framesets?
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:30
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Meh. Can't say i've ever tried to learn CSS so i wouldn't know. I probably should. But it's probably too much effort. :P
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:28
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Aoe wrote:
> Learn HTML? CSS?
>
> It doesn't take that long to learn.

He's just started out. Not even I would drop CSS onto a n00b without the knowledge that they understand the subtlties of HTML first.

Best place to start would be HTML 4.01 where you can still use stylistic elements in your HTML and still validate. Then move onto xHTML 1.0 Transitional. Then xHTML 1.0 Strict and CSS.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, HAND CODE!!! It'll make learning stuff a lot easier.
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:27
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Framesets??
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:25
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Learn HTML? CSS?

It doesn't take that long to learn.
Tue 31/08/04 at 10:24
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Everyone has to start somewhere. Even my first site was bad, and I'm that old, I was confined to HTML2 and CSS hadn't even been heard of!

For a first stab, it's alright. There's content, and a purpose other than "look what I tried to make".

A couple of suggestions:

1. The colours. Too may going on here. Try to simplify you options by restricting your pallet to say 2 or 3 colours to begin with. This kind of restriction makes you think more about what's going on.

2. Screen size. Try not to design a site based on your monitor dimensions. You may be at 1600x1200 but the rest of the world isn't.

One of the hardest things about making a site is the uncertainty of the end users set up. Workk from 800x600 upwards to ensure all should see the site how you want them too.

3. LEARN TO HAND CODE


Other's but not so important:

1. Framesets are a HUGE no no. Learn this now and never be ridiculed about it again.

2. Ditch the nasty, nasty, Java applet navigation. It hurts and basically it sucks.

Like I said, we all have to start somewhere, it's just keeping the momentum gping to want to better yourself and learn.

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