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No, not a 'sympathy please' thread, just general views and stuff on the matter.
In America, I am not sure about England, it is illegal and you can be arrested for trying to kill yourself. I think this is wrong, you are in charge of your life and nobody else has the permission to keep you alive or kill you. I think that suicide should be legalised, it would probably prevent the number of people attempting suicice as a 'cry for help' thing.
Some people will say suicide is really pathetic and a cowards way out. I beg to differ. It takes a hell of a lot of guts to cut your own wrists or jump off a bridge. Overdosing is the quick and easy way to do it and perhaps is a bit cowardly but many other methods take a lot of guts I reckon.
Apparently 1 in 3 people between the age of 13 and 19 seriously consider suicide. A lot of them do so because of pressure from exams or parents or from bullying. I have been really depressed in life before and though about it as a plausible option to take, but I know I would never have the guts to do it. People use suicide as a threat to other people, they think that by telling people they are going to kill themselves that they will get sympathy and their lives will be fine again.
So what do you think?
Should it be legal?
It is an easy way out?
In America, I am not sure about England, it is illegal and you can be arrested for trying to kill yourself. I think this is wrong, you are in charge of your life and nobody else has the permission to keep you alive or kill you. I think that suicide should be legalised, it would probably prevent the number of people attempting suicice as a 'cry for help' thing.
Some people will say suicide is really pathetic and a cowards way out. I beg to differ. It takes a hell of a lot of guts to cut your own wrists or jump off a bridge. Overdosing is the quick and easy way to do it and perhaps is a bit cowardly but many other methods take a lot of guts I reckon.
Apparently 1 in 3 people between the age of 13 and 19 seriously consider suicide. A lot of them do so because of pressure from exams or parents or from bullying. I have been really depressed in life before and though about it as a plausible option to take, but I know I would never have the guts to do it. People use suicide as a threat to other people, they think that by telling people they are going to kill themselves that they will get sympathy and their lives will be fine again.
So what do you think?
Should it be legal?
It is an easy way out?
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Kyz22 wrote:
> The Bible states God made the world (In 7 days, it says it in Genesis
> - the first bit)
>
> Science 'proves' that the world was made by the big bang.
>
> The two cannot co-exist. There has to be a true and a false, at least
> in my logic.
Not all Christians take all of the Bible literally. Most accept that some of the Bible is symbolic. The ones who take everything literally are called FUNDAMENTALISTS. I am a Christian, yet I accept that we evolved from lower order species. I also believe that God is there and cares about us all.
As Stephen Hawkins said, Science doesn't disprove God, it just places restrictions on when he did things (ie science proves that God created the Universe at the time of the Big Bang.
> The Bible states God made the world (In 7 days, it says it in Genesis
> - the first bit)
>
> Science 'proves' that the world was made by the big bang.
>
> The two cannot co-exist. There has to be a true and a false, at least
> in my logic.
Not all Christians take all of the Bible literally. Most accept that some of the Bible is symbolic. The ones who take everything literally are called FUNDAMENTALISTS. I am a Christian, yet I accept that we evolved from lower order species. I also believe that God is there and cares about us all.
As Stephen Hawkins said, Science doesn't disprove God, it just places restrictions on when he did things (ie science proves that God created the Universe at the time of the Big Bang.
I don't accept evolution. I don't believe that my ancestors were monkeys and fish. It just seems stupid.
The seven days is not seven days as we would think of it. In this context, the bible uses a day as a period of time. Not a period of determinable length.
The big bang is still just a theory. It can NOT be proven.
I believe that there was a big bang like beginning. But controlled by God. Bear in mind Einstein's equation E = mc^2. The energy has to come from some where.
The seven days is not seven days as we would think of it. In this context, the bible uses a day as a period of time. Not a period of determinable length.
The big bang is still just a theory. It can NOT be proven.
I believe that there was a big bang like beginning. But controlled by God. Bear in mind Einstein's equation E = mc^2. The energy has to come from some where.
Yeah.
Jesus taught people in parables because they wouldn't understand what he meant if he tried to explain things literally. Who's to say the entire bible isn't just one big parable to make learning easier?
Jesus taught people in parables because they wouldn't understand what he meant if he tried to explain things literally. Who's to say the entire bible isn't just one big parable to make learning easier?
Thing is, neither can be proved.
I don't neccessarily believe in science, and do not believe in religion at all. To me, in terms of the whole of humanity, it has created more problems than its solved.
However, I follow science rather than religion.
I don't neccessarily believe in science, and do not believe in religion at all. To me, in terms of the whole of humanity, it has created more problems than its solved.
However, I follow science rather than religion.
Oddly enough, apparently most of the inscence sticks used around that time were made up of mostly marajuana.
Hehe.
Hehe.
Some things in the bible are definite numbers though. Like the "weeks" in some prophecies, they were weeks of years which is how all the dates work from. Gets very confusing at places.
Cyclone wrote:
> I don't neccessarily believe in science, and do not believe in
> religion at all. To me, in terms of the whole of humanity, it has
> created more problems than its solved.
I agree. Just taking the bible as an example for a moment, had everyone just believed what is really in it, as opposed to interpreting it their way, then all would be united. The moral is, don't try thinking you know better than God.
> I don't neccessarily believe in science, and do not believe in
> religion at all. To me, in terms of the whole of humanity, it has
> created more problems than its solved.
I agree. Just taking the bible as an example for a moment, had everyone just believed what is really in it, as opposed to interpreting it their way, then all would be united. The moral is, don't try thinking you know better than God.
Religion in its essence is perfect.
In practice, man breaks it.
In practice, man breaks it.
Cyclone wrote:
> Thing is, neither can be proved.
Yes, nothing can ever be proved, only disproved. You could do an experiment 50 million times and get the same results, but nothing is stopping the next experiment having a different outcome.
There are many things that are beyond the human mind to understand (like the Holy Trinity) and I find it comforting that we can never know everything. Once we know everything, what is there to learn?
> Thing is, neither can be proved.
Yes, nothing can ever be proved, only disproved. You could do an experiment 50 million times and get the same results, but nothing is stopping the next experiment having a different outcome.
There are many things that are beyond the human mind to understand (like the Holy Trinity) and I find it comforting that we can never know everything. Once we know everything, what is there to learn?
The bible does NOT repeat does NOT metion a trinity. It was a pagan belief brought in by the church to increase membership, it twisted what was really said in the bible.
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