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Thu 01/05/03 at 18:41
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Had to literally escape college to catch the 3pm showing with a mate. He had to see it that early because any later and the bus he needs to get would stop running. Walked in just as the 20th Century Fox logo came up, so it was good timing (was a dash against time, I'm gonna be in SO much trouble on Monday for running away)

Great opening sequence, with Nightcrawler. The Phoenix thing was obvious to me as soon as I saw Jean Grey having a telepathic spasm. The fire in her eyes later proved my theory. Shaba.

Kind of slowed down at points, not enough action. More violent, though, with Wolverine slicing and dicing soldiers, heh.

Some pretty funny stuff, like when Mystique was flipping off the guards. Thought the "dam's about to blow" lasted too long, seemed to last the entire end of the film. "Oh no, the dam's gonna blow.... in half an hour!"

Decent ending, but why didn't Ice Man freeze the water, or Storm? I assume the prof was too out of it to help. Why did Jean have to live the jet, she could've done it from inside. I understand WHY they had her do it, but no real reason other than "She made a choice" was given.

Anyway, good film, enjoyed it. Not quite the amazing piece of cinema I was expecting, but I still have The Matrix for that.
Mon 05/05/03 at 20:20
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Jean Grey dies. She comes back as Phoenix, a helluva lot more powerful. She goes evil - Dark Phoenix. She becomes Jean Grey again. Her and Cyclops go at it, Wolverine gets annoyed.
Mon 05/05/03 at 20:35
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When she comes back as the phoenix is she good/bad, then does she turn bad.

I've seen it twice within two days and I don't remember wolverine being shot in the head at the end, half way or so through yeah but not at the end.
Mon 05/05/03 at 22:06
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Thank you for that Stryke.
Tue 06/05/03 at 08:27
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I didn't think Jean died, I thought she was just possessed by Phoenix. I was a bit disappointed about this -she managed this with not one glimpse of the Emron Crystal, intergalactic fighters or laser eyes dad.

In the cartoons (don't know about the comics) Nightcrawler is Mystiques son and also turns out to be Rogues half brother as Mistiques was bringing her up before she became an X-man. Suppose it's good for the ratings but Rogue is too young in my opinion and I don't ever remember her having a thing for Wolverine.

Oh well, the film didn't live up to what I expected so I'll have to wait and see what they churn out next.

Would love to see them do the Sentinals (did Stryker design these as well?) and bring Jubilee into it as well as Gambit.
Tue 06/05/03 at 20:24
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I creamed myself several times while in the cinema. It started with the Matrix trailer....then the opening scene with nightcrawler.....then the first time Wolverine gets his claws out......then several times during the scene at the school where Wolverine goes nuts.....and then randomly here and there which I'm putting down to pure excitement. It ruled though. I absolutely loved it. Even better than the first and I loved that HARD! Ahem...

Anyway, I totally didn't get the ending having never been that big a fan of the cartoon or comics. I spotted something under the water which looked like a big dragon and was then told something about a Phoenix so I'm guessing that's what I saw.

Two corny bits which I hated. First was when Jean "died" and Scott started crying on Wolverine's shoulder. All Wolverine's coolness went in that one moment where he cried and said "she's gone". Okay, perhaps they want to show him to be sensitive as he had a thing for her. Then show him to be sensitive, not gay and twatty. Second was at the very end where Patrick says something along the lines of 'there have been many casualties' and it cuts to Scott holding back the tears. Cringe-worthy.

Still, it had me in hysterics watching Magneto and Mystique laughing at the X-Men on the jet. And I'm also running around at the moment going 'SSHH!!' any chance I get and sinking my fists into people's chests. I want claws!!
Tue 06/05/03 at 20:28
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Stryke wrote:
> Also, let's have a vote. Would you rather they pay loads to bring back
> Halle Berry or sink the money into special effects?



Considering she is SOOOO bad, bordering on unwatchable as Storm and isn't actually in the least bit fit as her either, I say sink it all into The Danger Room! Not that I have a clue what it is. But it sounds interesting.
Tue 06/05/03 at 23:13
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Ineedsleep wrote:
Rogue is too young in my opinion and I
> don't ever remember her having a thing for Wolverine.

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She always had a thing for Wolverine in the cartoons and comics.


> Would love to see them do the Sentinals (did Stryker design these as
> well?) and bring Jubilee into it as well as Gambit.

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Nah, Sentinels were designed by a chappie called Trask and Jubilee is crap. I watch to see Gambit go mental with a pack of cards though, and tell Iceman to sod off and claim Rogue for his as in the cartoons.
Tue 06/05/03 at 23:24
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I wanna see Gambit with his cards. Maybe charge up a whole pack straight in to the back of a Sentinal. Only have two words to describe that. "Boom Baby".
Fri 09/05/03 at 17:59
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I know that this is a bit off topic but, me and my brother are having this big argument about which scene in X-men 2 is better, the bit where Pyr(you know that guy who can control fire) or the bit where Magneto is breaking the Plastic Prison with the iron balls.
Fri 09/05/03 at 18:36
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The Magneto bit was better.

But the Nightcrawler thing was probably better than that.

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