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This thread has been on the cards for some time, so here it comes.
Of late, there has been a rapidly growing number of people both on these forums and beyond that seem to have a problem with the way I type and the way I talk. This problem, to anyone reading this who has never read anything from me before, is not what you might expect people to pick on. You see, I don't indulge in lazy text talk, or fill out sentences using backwardly typed expletives to avoid swearfilters. No, the problem is, to me at least, far more puzzling. You see, I use good, solid english words. The type of words most people learn at school, or read in books, at the very least, I use words 95% of which 99% of people should understand, if not from experience then through context.
However, some people seem to have developed a problem with my use of such words. You need only see my thread regarding the use of the word "incompatible", which is an everyday word mind, to see what I'm talking about here.
Other than "incompatible", another word that some people seem to get irritated at me for using is "peon". Now, peon may not be an everyday word, to some at least, and I have to admit that I myself didn't come across during my school years. But a lot of other people did. Anybody who played Warcraft in the early 90's would have come across the word dozens of times, and it was playing Warcraft II in the late 90's that I eventually came across it myself. Having played the game extensively, the idea of being a peon became comical, as they were essentially ignorant peasants forced to work by your command, and they spoke in downtrodden and stupid tones.
To this day, I've never bothered to look up the definition of the word, but I generally know what it means.
The point there is, peon is a gamer's word. This is a gamer's forum. Why would gamers object to the use of a word which was a part of gaming history? Beats me to be honest. The word is a joke, and is almost always said as a joke. Perhaps people have just lost their sense of humour in regards to language, and can only find comic relief watching the misfortune of others.
But anyway, my point is that the vast majority of the language I use is understandable by again the vast majority of users on these forums. Sure, a few words will pop up that some people might not have come across before, but what's the problem with that? They say you learn something new everyday, but in my experience most people do not. The don't learn something new everyday, because they don't try to teach themselves anything. To those people who say to me that I use words they fail to comprehend or even recognise, I say this:
www.dictionary.com
It'll only take a few moments, and you'll be all the wiser for it. You can genuinely claim that you have learnt something that day, perhaps even something you may have cause to use yourself sometime in your future.
If you can't make the effort to apprise yourself of something which, in my opinion, you should probably already know, then, to be quite frank, your opinion already means nothing to me and ranting to me about your lack of terminological flexibility is not only not going to make me change, no, simplify the language I use, but is actually quite likely to make me step up my vocabulary to use what even *I* would term excessively and unnecessarily complicated language. Which is not to say I'm holding back now; I write as I feel comfortable writing - which is the main reason I refuse to change.
Do I make myself feel clever when I use big words? Many of you would likely say that I think I do, but that is not correct. To me, the english language is there to be used. Far too many of you seem to struggle to describe things without resorting to expletives and/or text talking or some other rubbish.
Language isn't clever. Which is why most of us can actually speak it, the majority can write it, but strangely, disparate few actually know how to use it.
Complain all you want when "big" words come along, but at the end of the day, we're all (mostly) english in here, and whether you have pride in that or not, the language is part and parcel of the nationality, and I will not be made to feel like villain for using it.
Have a nice day.
Of late, there has been a rapidly growing number of people both on these forums and beyond that seem to have a problem with the way I type and the way I talk. This problem, to anyone reading this who has never read anything from me before, is not what you might expect people to pick on. You see, I don't indulge in lazy text talk, or fill out sentences using backwardly typed expletives to avoid swearfilters. No, the problem is, to me at least, far more puzzling. You see, I use good, solid english words. The type of words most people learn at school, or read in books, at the very least, I use words 95% of which 99% of people should understand, if not from experience then through context.
However, some people seem to have developed a problem with my use of such words. You need only see my thread regarding the use of the word "incompatible", which is an everyday word mind, to see what I'm talking about here.
Other than "incompatible", another word that some people seem to get irritated at me for using is "peon". Now, peon may not be an everyday word, to some at least, and I have to admit that I myself didn't come across during my school years. But a lot of other people did. Anybody who played Warcraft in the early 90's would have come across the word dozens of times, and it was playing Warcraft II in the late 90's that I eventually came across it myself. Having played the game extensively, the idea of being a peon became comical, as they were essentially ignorant peasants forced to work by your command, and they spoke in downtrodden and stupid tones.
To this day, I've never bothered to look up the definition of the word, but I generally know what it means.
The point there is, peon is a gamer's word. This is a gamer's forum. Why would gamers object to the use of a word which was a part of gaming history? Beats me to be honest. The word is a joke, and is almost always said as a joke. Perhaps people have just lost their sense of humour in regards to language, and can only find comic relief watching the misfortune of others.
But anyway, my point is that the vast majority of the language I use is understandable by again the vast majority of users on these forums. Sure, a few words will pop up that some people might not have come across before, but what's the problem with that? They say you learn something new everyday, but in my experience most people do not. The don't learn something new everyday, because they don't try to teach themselves anything. To those people who say to me that I use words they fail to comprehend or even recognise, I say this:
www.dictionary.com
It'll only take a few moments, and you'll be all the wiser for it. You can genuinely claim that you have learnt something that day, perhaps even something you may have cause to use yourself sometime in your future.
If you can't make the effort to apprise yourself of something which, in my opinion, you should probably already know, then, to be quite frank, your opinion already means nothing to me and ranting to me about your lack of terminological flexibility is not only not going to make me change, no, simplify the language I use, but is actually quite likely to make me step up my vocabulary to use what even *I* would term excessively and unnecessarily complicated language. Which is not to say I'm holding back now; I write as I feel comfortable writing - which is the main reason I refuse to change.
Do I make myself feel clever when I use big words? Many of you would likely say that I think I do, but that is not correct. To me, the english language is there to be used. Far too many of you seem to struggle to describe things without resorting to expletives and/or text talking or some other rubbish.
Language isn't clever. Which is why most of us can actually speak it, the majority can write it, but strangely, disparate few actually know how to use it.
Complain all you want when "big" words come along, but at the end of the day, we're all (mostly) english in here, and whether you have pride in that or not, the language is part and parcel of the nationality, and I will not be made to feel like villain for using it.
Have a nice day.
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Totoro wrote:
> Lots of people that come on here just young kids, give them a break.
> OK, so text talking is irritating, but not everyone reads the
> dictionary in their spare time.
And neither do I. I wasn't taught txt talk in school, and by the time I was the age of most posters on this forum, I could use a wider range of words than many of them seem able to demostrate. I quite confident that most of them know the majority of words I use, they just don't like to see them.
Laziness will get no congratulations from me.
> Lots of people that come on here just young kids, give them a break.
> OK, so text talking is irritating, but not everyone reads the
> dictionary in their spare time.
And neither do I. I wasn't taught txt talk in school, and by the time I was the age of most posters on this forum, I could use a wider range of words than many of them seem able to demostrate. I quite confident that most of them know the majority of words I use, they just don't like to see them.
Laziness will get no congratulations from me.
I blame video games ;)
Totoro wrote:
> Lots of people that come on here just young kids, give them a break.
> OK, so text talking is irritating, but not everyone reads the
> dictionary in their spare time.
If people don't understand so called big words they shouldn't complain. After all they don't have to read a post if they don't want to.
A far worse crime is to patronise most in order to cater to the least verbose members.
> Lots of people that come on here just young kids, give them a break.
> OK, so text talking is irritating, but not everyone reads the
> dictionary in their spare time.
If people don't understand so called big words they shouldn't complain. After all they don't have to read a post if they don't want to.
A far worse crime is to patronise most in order to cater to the least verbose members.
Totoro wrote:
> I blame video games ;)
I've played video games since I was about 6 years old. I think the problem is due to the online chat/mobile messaging communities.
People use daft shorthand which is quickly becoming a language all of it's own. Put some of my posts in front of someone from 200 years ago, and it will seem strange, but legible, put a rant of shorthand txt messaging to the same person, and they'll write it off as the rantings of a madman.
> I blame video games ;)
I've played video games since I was about 6 years old. I think the problem is due to the online chat/mobile messaging communities.
People use daft shorthand which is quickly becoming a language all of it's own. Put some of my posts in front of someone from 200 years ago, and it will seem strange, but legible, put a rant of shorthand txt messaging to the same person, and they'll write it off as the rantings of a madman.
pe·on ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pn, pn)
n.
1)
An unskilled laborer or farm worker of Latin America or the southwest United States.
2)
a)Such a worker bound in servitude to a landlord creditor.
b)A menial worker; a drudge.
3)
(also pyn) In India and other parts of South and Southeast Asia, a person of menial position, especially a messenger, servant, or foot soldier
n.
1)
An unskilled laborer or farm worker of Latin America or the southwest United States.
2)
a)Such a worker bound in servitude to a landlord creditor.
b)A menial worker; a drudge.
3)
(also pyn) In India and other parts of South and Southeast Asia, a person of menial position, especially a messenger, servant, or foot soldier
Thanks for that. However, having read it, I feel no better off since, as stated, I had already guessed the words meaning.
You rapscallion! I agree IB, one should never recieve criticism for using words of a more descriptive nature. Peon is almost an endearing term, when used in the context of a forum based discussion.
I suppose that there could be an case, for those with considerable vocabs, to write in a style that addresses the needs of the intended audience.
Wot u thi}k bout that? :> ;) !!!!!!
I suppose that there could be an case, for those with considerable vocabs, to write in a style that addresses the needs of the intended audience.
Wot u thi}k bout that? :> ;) !!!!!!
The English Dictionary is my favourite book: new words, old words, unusual words, sumptuous words, slang words, made-up words - it's all good.
I like it when people use unusual words, like for instance: at the moment I'm eating my favourite bellytimber [food].
If I come across a word I'm not aware of, I look it up and add it to my vocabulary. Words are great things - the more words you know, the better you can express yourself.
Although it must be said that constantly using over-extravagant words is a bit of a pose, but extravagant English is always better than pigeon English.
I like it when people use unusual words, like for instance: at the moment I'm eating my favourite bellytimber [food].
If I come across a word I'm not aware of, I look it up and add it to my vocabulary. Words are great things - the more words you know, the better you can express yourself.
Although it must be said that constantly using over-extravagant words is a bit of a pose, but extravagant English is always better than pigeon English.
It's my favourite book too. It has an excellent use of language, but the plot's a bit hard to follow.
In Holland, they put snroot on their chips.
snroot.
And if IB can give me an example of a cnidarian, without looking it up, I will be greatly impressed.
snroot.
And if IB can give me an example of a cnidarian, without looking it up, I will be greatly impressed.
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