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Mon 10/02/03 at 12:10
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This thread has been on the cards for some time, so here it comes.


Of late, there has been a rapidly growing number of people both on these forums and beyond that seem to have a problem with the way I type and the way I talk. This problem, to anyone reading this who has never read anything from me before, is not what you might expect people to pick on. You see, I don't indulge in lazy text talk, or fill out sentences using backwardly typed expletives to avoid swearfilters. No, the problem is, to me at least, far more puzzling. You see, I use good, solid english words. The type of words most people learn at school, or read in books, at the very least, I use words 95% of which 99% of people should understand, if not from experience then through context.

However, some people seem to have developed a problem with my use of such words. You need only see my thread regarding the use of the word "incompatible", which is an everyday word mind, to see what I'm talking about here.

Other than "incompatible", another word that some people seem to get irritated at me for using is "peon". Now, peon may not be an everyday word, to some at least, and I have to admit that I myself didn't come across during my school years. But a lot of other people did. Anybody who played Warcraft in the early 90's would have come across the word dozens of times, and it was playing Warcraft II in the late 90's that I eventually came across it myself. Having played the game extensively, the idea of being a peon became comical, as they were essentially ignorant peasants forced to work by your command, and they spoke in downtrodden and stupid tones.

To this day, I've never bothered to look up the definition of the word, but I generally know what it means.

The point there is, peon is a gamer's word. This is a gamer's forum. Why would gamers object to the use of a word which was a part of gaming history? Beats me to be honest. The word is a joke, and is almost always said as a joke. Perhaps people have just lost their sense of humour in regards to language, and can only find comic relief watching the misfortune of others.

But anyway, my point is that the vast majority of the language I use is understandable by again the vast majority of users on these forums. Sure, a few words will pop up that some people might not have come across before, but what's the problem with that? They say you learn something new everyday, but in my experience most people do not. The don't learn something new everyday, because they don't try to teach themselves anything. To those people who say to me that I use words they fail to comprehend or even recognise, I say this:

www.dictionary.com

It'll only take a few moments, and you'll be all the wiser for it. You can genuinely claim that you have learnt something that day, perhaps even something you may have cause to use yourself sometime in your future.

If you can't make the effort to apprise yourself of something which, in my opinion, you should probably already know, then, to be quite frank, your opinion already means nothing to me and ranting to me about your lack of terminological flexibility is not only not going to make me change, no, simplify the language I use, but is actually quite likely to make me step up my vocabulary to use what even *I* would term excessively and unnecessarily complicated language. Which is not to say I'm holding back now; I write as I feel comfortable writing - which is the main reason I refuse to change.

Do I make myself feel clever when I use big words? Many of you would likely say that I think I do, but that is not correct. To me, the english language is there to be used. Far too many of you seem to struggle to describe things without resorting to expletives and/or text talking or some other rubbish.


Language isn't clever. Which is why most of us can actually speak it, the majority can write it, but strangely, disparate few actually know how to use it.

Complain all you want when "big" words come along, but at the end of the day, we're all (mostly) english in here, and whether you have pride in that or not, the language is part and parcel of the nationality, and I will not be made to feel like villain for using it.

Have a nice day.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:10
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
This thread has been on the cards for some time, so here it comes.


Of late, there has been a rapidly growing number of people both on these forums and beyond that seem to have a problem with the way I type and the way I talk. This problem, to anyone reading this who has never read anything from me before, is not what you might expect people to pick on. You see, I don't indulge in lazy text talk, or fill out sentences using backwardly typed expletives to avoid swearfilters. No, the problem is, to me at least, far more puzzling. You see, I use good, solid english words. The type of words most people learn at school, or read in books, at the very least, I use words 95% of which 99% of people should understand, if not from experience then through context.

However, some people seem to have developed a problem with my use of such words. You need only see my thread regarding the use of the word "incompatible", which is an everyday word mind, to see what I'm talking about here.

Other than "incompatible", another word that some people seem to get irritated at me for using is "peon". Now, peon may not be an everyday word, to some at least, and I have to admit that I myself didn't come across during my school years. But a lot of other people did. Anybody who played Warcraft in the early 90's would have come across the word dozens of times, and it was playing Warcraft II in the late 90's that I eventually came across it myself. Having played the game extensively, the idea of being a peon became comical, as they were essentially ignorant peasants forced to work by your command, and they spoke in downtrodden and stupid tones.

To this day, I've never bothered to look up the definition of the word, but I generally know what it means.

The point there is, peon is a gamer's word. This is a gamer's forum. Why would gamers object to the use of a word which was a part of gaming history? Beats me to be honest. The word is a joke, and is almost always said as a joke. Perhaps people have just lost their sense of humour in regards to language, and can only find comic relief watching the misfortune of others.

But anyway, my point is that the vast majority of the language I use is understandable by again the vast majority of users on these forums. Sure, a few words will pop up that some people might not have come across before, but what's the problem with that? They say you learn something new everyday, but in my experience most people do not. The don't learn something new everyday, because they don't try to teach themselves anything. To those people who say to me that I use words they fail to comprehend or even recognise, I say this:

www.dictionary.com

It'll only take a few moments, and you'll be all the wiser for it. You can genuinely claim that you have learnt something that day, perhaps even something you may have cause to use yourself sometime in your future.

If you can't make the effort to apprise yourself of something which, in my opinion, you should probably already know, then, to be quite frank, your opinion already means nothing to me and ranting to me about your lack of terminological flexibility is not only not going to make me change, no, simplify the language I use, but is actually quite likely to make me step up my vocabulary to use what even *I* would term excessively and unnecessarily complicated language. Which is not to say I'm holding back now; I write as I feel comfortable writing - which is the main reason I refuse to change.

Do I make myself feel clever when I use big words? Many of you would likely say that I think I do, but that is not correct. To me, the english language is there to be used. Far too many of you seem to struggle to describe things without resorting to expletives and/or text talking or some other rubbish.


Language isn't clever. Which is why most of us can actually speak it, the majority can write it, but strangely, disparate few actually know how to use it.

Complain all you want when "big" words come along, but at the end of the day, we're all (mostly) english in here, and whether you have pride in that or not, the language is part and parcel of the nationality, and I will not be made to feel like villain for using it.

Have a nice day.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:14
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
damned keyboard.

anyway:


...far too many of you seem to struggle to describe things without resorting to expletives and/or text talking or some other rubbish.


Language isn't clever. Which is why most of us can actually speak it, the majority can write it, but strangely, disparate few actually know how to use it.

Complain all you want when "big" words come along, but at the end of the day, we're all (mostly) english in here, and whether you have pride in that or not, the language is part and parcel of the nationality, and I will not be made to feel like villain for using it.

Have a nice day.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:15
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"Copyright: FM Inc."
Posts: 10,338
If call a thread "A broad vocabulary" and then cut yourself off mid-paragraph, it's ironic.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:18
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Posts: 5,630
Don't think that was the whole post, but anyway. I know what you mean , it does occur quite a lot, but in this forum it's ok. You should go in the Sony forum, most of them don't even use proper words. 'Txt tlk' seems to be the order of the day, a sad reflection of our times.

Though I'm not on as much as I used to, back in the day when I was on here loads, I used to have regular run-ins with a guy called Lord H. As well as being a Grade 1 prat, he labelled me a show-off because I used words like 'palpable', because not everyone would understand it. Unforunately this sort of dumbing down, making everything accessible to the lowest common deonminator is the reason why 'txt tlk' is becoming more widely used.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:19
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
FantasyMeister wrote:
> If call a thread "A broad vocabulary" and then cut yourself
> off mid-paragraph, it's ironic.

Vocabulary is a collection of words...
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:19
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"Copyright: FM Inc."
Posts: 10,338
I get your drift though. Strangely enough, I find IB's posts the easiest on the eye to read, because they're written in English. I tend to struggle with many other people's posts, because just one small typo can throw my whole train of thought off the rails and make me lose track of the subject being discussed.

And I usually find that if there's a 'big-word' that I don't understand the meaning of straight away, the context that the 'big-word' is being used in generally allows me to get the gist of it anyway.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:20
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"Trout a la creme"
Posts: 2,858
Insane Bartender wrote:
You see, I don't indulge in lazy text talk, or fill
> out sentences using backwardly typed expletives to avoid swearfilters.

no using accented characters to avoid the swearfilters is more your style
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:22
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"Wants Spymate on dv"
Posts: 3,025
Lots of people that come on here just young kids, give them a break.
OK, so text talking is irritating, but not everyone reads the dictionary in their spare time.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:22
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Posts: 5,630
What I try to do (probably ingrained in my mind after being told to do it to increase our vocab for my English Literature A level), is, everytime you see or read a word you don't know, look it up in the dictionary and try to remember it. Works well, too.
Mon 10/02/03 at 12:22
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
sideshow buzz wrote:
> no using accented characters to avoid the swearfilters is more your
> style

My style, or something I've done once or twice? I tihnk you're overgeneralising more than a little there. I mostly use a few nice, if not polite words to get my point across.

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