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"So the Xbox is supposed to be a PC in a box huh?"

What about the PS2 then?

Let's look at the evidence, shall we?

1. Sony released updated drivers for the DVD remote. Excuse me?! If UPDATING DRIVERS isn't a PC thing, then I don't know what is!

2. You can buy LINUX for your PS2. This is just beyond belief. You can buy:

Linux (for PlayStation 2) version 1.0 software
Monitor Cable Adaptor
Internal Hard Disc Drive (40 GB)
Network Adaptor (Ethernet) [10/100 Base-T]
USB Keyboard & USB Mouse (for PlayStation 2)

Check out: http://www.us.playstation.com /product_detail/product_detail.jhtml?PRODID =337933&CATID=490 (SPACE!)

if you don't believe me.

Which console is nearest to a PC now, eh?

:-D

Oh can't forget Phantasy Star Online 1+2 out later this year.

Anyway at the end of the day I always get into these who's consoles better debates when I try not to. All the consoles are good for their own reasons, I prefer Gamecube to anything out there and no-one's gonna make me think otherwise.

Oh and anyone got a PS2 release list? I keep seeing the GC and X-Box lists about every 5 minutes but I see nothing from the SOny camp.

Oh and for YH here's a list as far as I can remember of GC exclusives.

Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness, Mario Sunshine, Resident Evil, Animal Crossing, Wrestlemania X8, Die Hard : Vendetta, Pikmin, Starfox Adventures, Monkey Ball 2, Sega Soccer Slam. And they're all out by the end of the year.

Other exclusives to come in the next year are Zelda, F-Zero, Lylatwars, Wario World, Donkey Kong +, Kameo Elements of Power, Donkey Kong Racing, Mario Kart, Kirby tilt and tumble, Perfect Dark Zero, Killer Instinct, Mario tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Party 4, Sonic Adventure 3 and quite a few more that I can't remember.

They're all off the top of my head so I probably have missed quite a few out.

HálloHowArtThou wrote:

quite an impressive list there but here's the facts

>


Air Force Delta Storm : never heard of it so wont comment
> Black And White: anyone could have owned this on the PC years ago
> Bruce Lee: Quest For the Dragon: do you really expect much from this?
> Buffy the Vampire Slayer: same as above
> Commandos 2: same as Black and white
> Conflict Desert Storm: no idea
> Dead To Rights: coming out on PS2 and GC at a later date
> Die Hard: is this the same game as on PC?
> Dino Crisis 3: Rather play Resi evil
> Good Cop Bad Cop: no idea
> Gun Valkyrie: no idea
> Halo 2: should be good as long as it isnt a quick cash in
> Hitman 2: on the PC
> House of the Dead 3: light-gun?
> Hunter: The Reckoning: no idea
> The Matrix: Reloaded (gonna be the best game ever): multi-format and have you actually played it?
> Max Payne 2: should be good
> Medal Of Honour: Allied Assault: multi-format
> Metal Gear Solid Substance: multi format
> Midtown Madness 3: ha ha Microsoft game
> Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance: multi-format
> Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis: PC game good though
> Pac Man World 2: Multi-format
> Prisoner Of War: no idea
> Rainbow Six: Raven Shield: yay Tom Clancy games are sooo much fun
> Return to Castle Wolfinstien: good game out on the PC though
> Serious Sam: old game pretty good though
> Shenmue II: have it on the Dreamcast
> Shenmue III: SWEEEEEEEET game hopefully, best in the list so far
> Soul Calibur 2: multi-format
> State Of Emergency: crap on the PS2 anyway
> Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter Special Edition: Rogue Leader owns this
> SWAT: Global Strike Team: no idea
> Terminator Dawn of Fate: no idea
> Timesplitters 2: multi-format
> Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: yay Tom Clancy
> Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: yay more TOm Clancy, multi-format as well
> Unreal Championship: SWEEEEEEEEEEEET
> X-MEN Wolverines Revenge: multi-format

I don't see many exclusives there, but a good list if you like playing PC games but don't have the specs to play the game. Admittedly if these games appeal to you then it's a good system buit I don't see much variety the list mainly consists of 1st Person shooters and Army strategy games.

Your Honour wrote:
> Tiltawhirl, the majority of games you listed are multiplatform, so I
> can play them on my big fat Xbox.

I'm not saying that the list is gonna make you run out and buy a GC if you already own another console, i'm just saying that the GC has got a packed release schedule.

>
> I wonder how short the list would be if it was GC Exclusives only...
> but I don't have the time to look into it. Perhaps you'd like to
> though?

Will do haven't got the time at the moment.

Oh and about Flintstones Viva whatever, I just copied the likst from another site therer was lot of crap in there but I was trying to show you that the GC has got tons of games coming out. Some crap some damn excellent.

HálloHowArtThou wrote:
> I though a quick run down of games-to-come on XBox to back YH up would
> be wanted so here it is:
>
> Air Force Delta Storm
> Black And White
> Bruce Lee: Quest For the Dragon
> Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> Commandos 2
> Conflict Desert Storm
> Dead To Rights
> Die Hard
> Dino Crisis 3
> Good Cop Bad Cop
> Gun Valkyrie
> Halo 2
> Hitman 2
> House of the Dead 3
> Hunter: The Reckoning
> The Matrix: Reloaded (gonna be the best game ever)
> Max Payne 2
> Medal Of Honour: Allied Assault
> Metal Gear Solid Substance
> Midtown Madness 3
> Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance
> Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis
> Pac Man World 2
> Prisoner Of War
> Rainbow Six: Raven Shield
> Return to Castle Wolfinstien
> Serious Sam
> Shenmue II
> Shenmue III
> Soul Calibur 2
> State Of Emergency
> Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter Special Edition
> SWAT: Global Strike Team
> Terminator Dawn of Fate
> Timesplitters 2
> Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
> Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
> Unreal Championship
> X-MEN Wolverines Revenge

Okay now lets narrow that down to ones I would like to play:

Black and White (got on PC, very old)
Halo 2
Soul Calibur 2 (multi-format)

Three!
Yet there are 8-10 I want from the GC list. You see, thats why I bought a GC, there are more games on it I want. And you bought an X-box, because that has more games you want. It's quite simple isn't it? So how about we let this topic drift slowly to the bottom and be deleted.

savatt1668 wrote:
> $lik wrote:
> because he's a sad/bias PS2/Xbox owner who is jealous/annoyed at the
> Gamecubes success and has nnothing better to do but moan about
> Nintendo as it's the only thing he lives for. :D
>
> slik ~_~
>
>
> Hmmmmmmmmmmm, this could be easily worded to fit a good number of
> Ninties around here when it comes to the X-Box and PS2.
>
> ;-)

What a minute, I'm confused, the X-box hasn't had any success! At least, nothing compared to the PS2 and Gamecube's success.

PropertyOfJWelsh

go on then... AIM screename?

Fraid not right now - will have soon though. I can only use AOL Instant Messenger at the moment. ;-)

savatt,
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