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"September 11th"

Now when i was in school my history teacher showed us something amazing. If you type Q33NY (the number of the plane) in wingdings1 you get a special code. i cant show you this code because it wont let me paste it but just try typing Q33NY in wingdlins1 on microsoft word and see the code. Now you might say why is there a Q? this is because it was a Quantos plane or something, its the australien company. then theres the 33, this is the plane number and the NY is for Ney York, the destination. now the code is firstly a plane.then two blocks that look like buildings and then theres a skull&crossbones and then the star of david. my only queries is did osama have anything against the jews. there must have been loads in the towers. Please just try the code out and then post back (you must put the letters in capitals overwise it doesnt work.

Here are some facts I've already put down an a thread which also had a group of idiots who believed this pathetic conspiracy theory.

Just to try and put this topic to rest and shut up those who actually beleive this rubbish and unbeliveable conspiracy theory, I have thought of some points which show this is not a huge conspiracy by the US government but a terrorist attack.

BUILDING DAMAGE
I'm sure the Pentagon is made more of just bricks and mortar, I would think the actual building itself is made of extremely thick concrete and steele which is why the plane only destroyed a small section of the building on impact rather than flying straight through.

747 WINGS
How much do damage do you expect the wings would do? You conspiracy nuts don't actually explain. put this together with the above point and the one below and you may get an idea on what happened to the planes wings.

WRECKAGE
A plane the size of a 747 would be carrying alot of fuel and when the terrorists flew it directly at the pentagon it would have been travelling at a great speed. When the plane did impact at that speed, with its size, and that much fuel onboard, hitting the pentegon would have disintagrated it. This is why there is not alot of wreckage or bodies from the plane.

WHITNESSES
Just look at the link Bellandy put down. Do you suggest these people never actually died? If so were are they? There are also whitnesses in air traffic control as well as hundreds of people on the ground in DC. Did these people imagine a 747 crashing into the pentagon.

FIRE
As we all know the pentagon was on fire days after the terrorist attack. Why? well because of fuel from the plane of corse why else.

ROCKET ATTACK
A rocket would never cause the amount of damage that we saw in the pentagon, it would have to be something alot bigger like a cruise missile or something similar. And then you've got to look at how could terrorists smuggles such a weapon into America with out detection and how would they get their hands on such a powerful weapon. It doesn't add up.

TIMING
The government would have had to be pritty damn fast to cover up a attack on the pentagon if it were something other than a hijacked plane that was used. There would have been hundreds in not thousands of people to keep quiet aswell as the people on the plane itself, they would have had to bribe everyone who saw the attack. Then there is the plane itself. Where did it go?

Put these points with the fact the government has no reason to lie about the attack (A missile attack would make the country look vunerable is not a strong enough point) and your conspiracy theory looks pretty flat. Next time you want to think up a conspiracy plot at least 'think' about all the facts first.

just like i dont think we went to the moon in 69

humpo wrote:
> post me a URL showing otherwise and i will
> shut up. untill then please refrian from calling me an idiot


I agree.

There has been a lot of nonsense posted about Sept. 11th, but this one does make you wonder.

All of the photos on that site are linked from official US Military websites. This one in particular

http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/images/sres.pl?Lbox_cap=356273&dir= Photo&vn=&ttl=010911-M-4122l-031&ref=defenselink

(remove the space)

states very clearly that the picture was taken "moments after". No wreckage will have been cleared at this point, so where exactly is the plane?

Belldandy wrote:
> The website address this idiot is
> giving;

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
>

has to be one of the most stupid I've seen yet. If the braindead author of
> this site actually bothered to check his facts, and use pictures other than
> those that support his case, then he'd not have anything to print.



use pictures other than those that support his case, what, like pictures of some kittens in a boot. he can only use the images of the crash site he can collate from internet resources like news sites and news papers. he probably was not allowed to stroll up to the pentagon and start taking photos....


check his facts , you posted URL with a list of names on a memorial website..its harldy conclusive evidence of a plane crash

the only fact i have been shown is that theres is no plane debris in any shots form any news source.and some of the things they say happened seem rather implaussable given the photgraphic evidence

post me a URL showing otherwise and i will shut up. untill then please refrian from calling me an idiot

I'm sorry to say this but to try and make any kind of worthless discussion out of a world shattering event such as September 11th is tasteless and abhorrent.

Keep this rubbish away from here...

Moral lecture over with..

This is really sad.

I must just say though, for the benefit of anyone who is tempted to believe this twaddle. The flight numbers of the aircraft that hit the WTC were American Airlines AA11 and United Airlines UA175, both destined for Los Angeles.

NOT Quantas.

NOT Flight No.33

NOT destined for New York

Otacon you are a muppet. So is your History Teacher.

I remember
> some conspiracy Theorists thought it was again the US government who blew up the
> Federal building in Oklahoma so the president would pass an anti-terrorism law.
> That seemed unlikly enough but this is going a bit too far.

I suspect that the patriots were behind this

Just read this

ditto all the negative comments made towards author

The website address this idiot is giving;

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

has to be one of the most stupid I've seen yet. If the braindead author of this site actually bothered to check his facts, and use pictures other than those that support his case, then he'd not have anything to print.

Anybody want to argue that the Pentagon didn't get hit by an airliner ?

http://www.americanmemorials.com/memorial/deathnotice_private.asp? idMemorial=1318

Remove the space by the question mark and go to that site.

All those people are real, they died. Claiming otherwise is a disgraceful act.

And its nice to see the stupid topics are still here after my week-and-a-bit holiday......ah well :)

i dont think the US actually attacked the pentagon itself, but i think hes just saying that its doubtful wether a plane hit it given the evidence