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Sat 16/03/02 at 02:15
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I've titled this post "Xbox - an opinion". I was going call it "Xbox - a verdict" but that sounds conceited, and gives the impression that my thoughts are final and correct. That's not the case, so I stress that this is my *opinion*. You may agree, you may not; but don't rant at me about it. I do not care if you agree or disagree, I am simply giving my thoughts in the hope that you find them useful in deciding whether or not to buy one for yourself.

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I was looking at screens and videos of Halo on the Xbox all day yesterday, and got a strong urge to buy one.

So, after I got home from work, I went to my local Tesco's and bought one, together with a second controller, Halo and Project Gotham Racing.

I plugged everything in and powered it up. First thing you're presented with is the settings screen - very similar to the PS2's in what it offers, the main difference being that you can set 60Hz mode here, which is then used for all games - pretty cool. My major dislike about the menus and front-end is that it's all in shades of green, but that's just personal taste.

Other minor things I noticed were that (a) the machine is just as noisy as my PS2 (i.e. not very) and (b) there is a constant clickling sound from within - which I assume is the hard disk - but which you don't notice once a game is playing.

First game loaded up was Project Gotham Racing. This is the game that, according to Xbox magazine (not the official one) "makes GT3 look dump".

I can categorically say that this is not the case. The cars are well realised, but they just don't have the polish (no pun intended) that the cars in GT3 have. They're good, accurate models, but somehow don't have that 'real' look to them; they're more 'very lifelike cartoon' than photorealistic. The colours are bold and strong, rather than the subtleties of GT3.

Tracks are well designed, but the scenery again looks a little bland. There's plenty there, but the textures aren't particularly well detailed, with colour used in 'blocks'.

Replays are good, though again not up to GT3 standards. Reflections in the cars are a little blocky, and tend to move quite jerkily overy the surface of the car. And believe it or not, I did see pop-up in certain areas, and jaggies are just as evident here as in GT3; i.e. they are there, but are not significant. In terms of appearance, it probably falls somewhere between Ridge Racer V and GT3.

In terms of gameplay, it's good enough. The handling isn't anything like GT3, but then it's not supposed to be, as this is more of an arcade racer. It falls somewhere between GT3 and Burnout, I'd say. As with GT3, there are only 5 other cars in the race. Driver AI is also similar to GT3 in that cars will hit you if you're in their way - you can turn into a corner nice and smooth, and cars around you don't really deviate from their pre-determined racing line.

I have also found a fairly major bug! Quite frequently, when re-starting a race and having an automatic gearbox, the car suddenly goes into reverse gear and revs the engine without me touching a thing! Then when the countdown reaches "Go!" the car takes off backwards! I have found that some frantic pressing of the left (brake)and right (accelerate) trigger buttons solves the problem, but it gives the other cars one heck of a head start, and many times I've had to re-start the race again immediately.

Over all though, it's a solid arcade racer, similar to MSR on the Dreamcast. The only area this does have an advantage is the sound, because the music is presented as radio stations you can listen to, as in GT3 - but *real* radio stations, such as Capital FM and XFM. But in all honesty, I don't believe the over-all product is a patch on GT3.

Next up is Halo, the reason I bought the machine. The mother of all FPS games, apparently. And it really is rather good. You know how FPS games play, so I won't go into great details. What takes most getting used to is that you can only carry two weapons at any time, adding a significant strategy element to the game. As far as I have played, this hasn't really been an issue, as I've so far only had pistols and assault rifles in various forms; this may well become more of a factor later in the game.

At certain points you must control vehicles - so far I've only encountered the Warthog, and this is proving fairly difficult to control; you control acceleration with the left analogue stick, and steer by rotating the camera with the right analogue stick. Sounds easy, but wait until you try it... it's not!

While Halo certainly is a very good FPS game, I stand by my earlier claim that Edge magazine got it wrong; it's not 10/10 for me. The enemy AI is good - enemies duck for cover behind structures and shields - but it's not perfect; when they do come out, so far they have tended to run pretty much in straight lines and be fairly easy to kill. The main problem comes from the numbers that can attack at any one time. It is a very good game, but so far I wouldn't say that it is significantly better than Medal of Honour: Allied Assault or a few other PC FPS games. It certainly doesn't acheive anything that the PS2 (and probably Gamecube) couldn't do.

And finally, a few words on the controller. It is a little on the large side, and I find it a little painful after prolonged play. It's okay using the analogue sticks (though it feels very odd with them being offset as they are), but when needing to use the A, B, X or Y buttons, I find I have to re-adjust the grip of my right hand, otherwise it stretches the muscle between my thumb and forefinger, which eventually leads to cramp. I get the feeling that they could have reduced the size of the pad by about a third if they'd done away with that bloody great Xbox logo in the middle.

The A, B, X and Y buttons are also too close together for my liking, and I find myself distracted and having to look down at the pad to make sure I'm pressing the right one. When you consider the size of the pad, this seems quite ridiculous. Still, hopefully I'll get used to it.

The 'rumble effect' built into the pad is also not as good as that of the DualShock 2; it is very weak in comparison, and - for example - does not give the same level of feedback in PGR as the DualShock 2 does in GT3.

So, what about the over-all package?

Well, after my first play of both games, I was left feeling a little flat, not really knowing what to think. It certainly didn't 'wow' me as the PS2 did when I first got it. In fact, after an hour, I turned it off to watch some TV, and at one point contemplated returning it.

But after a few more hours playing time, I've pretty much decided against that, although I don't think I'll be buying any more games for it for a while; I'll just have to see what comes along. It *is* a good machine, but I've not yet seen anything that I don't believe could be done on the other platforms.

Others have mentioned that they plan to sell their PS2 to help fund an Xbox. That's their choice, but I would say don't be too hasty. Get some quality play time on some of the games available first, because you may not be as impressed as you think. I am lucky that I could afford an Xbox without trading in; I can tell you in all honesty now that, had I traded my PS2 for the Xbox, I would be kicking myself and regretting it severely.

This is my honest, unbiased opinion as an owner of both machines. Make of it what you will.
Sun 17/03/02 at 14:35
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Oh dear. Now I'm mad.

savatt1668 wrote:
> Weird Wonder wrote:
> Don't get an X-box.

Name something x-box gains
> over GC and I could tell you
> just as many advantages GC has over
> x-box.

Sure the X-box has a faster
> polygon rate but the GC is made by
> Nintendo... skilled console makers.

So why did the N64 get totally pounded by
> the PS1 ?

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Because of the one fact that the N64 was on cartridges. Which resulted in developers going for the PlayStation, which was easier to develop for. That resulted in the PS having far more games, which were also cheaper. It is just because of having more games.
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Sure
> X-box has the internet... but Ninty are holding out to
> see if the internet
> gaming industry will flop.

No, Ninty are just
> spineless and would rather cash in when another company such as Microsoft has
> had the guts to do it first.

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This is pure bigotism. Nintendo are holding out because they need to actually make the consoles before they sell them. If you actually had any kind of gaming knowledge, and actually looked into it, you would find that Ninty has many reasons for releasing the GC when it is.
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Sure x-box has good games and adverts... but
> the
> GC has personal characters like Mario and LINK.

And how many times
> are they gonna milk the same games, just giving them better graphics. The Zelda
> games never seem to link either, just different situations of the same story -
> Zelda gets kidnapped, lazy git elf has to do something about it, elf bumps into
> big nasty Gannon who he has "never" seen before despite the appearance
> of the bloke in all the other games. How many times can one princess get
> captured !? Get a couple of body guards you silly cow !

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That is just stupid. Sure, franchises such as Mario and Zelda are becoming a mere cash cow, but I'd sure as hell rather run around as Mario than some stupid genetically altered cyber-marine with bad-ass-big-gun things. Nintendo actually goes for fun games, rather than realism, and it is common knowledge that realism takes away a lot of the fun. Look at the Sims for a prime example...
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Plus I reckon
> x-box should be
> taken to court 'cos my mate told me there were these x-box
> symbols. duo, Octo
> and Link!
There are a few more I think!

What ??
> You muppet !

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Can't complain with you here.
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GC is small and portable. X-box is
> purely a shelf
> console that's even uglier than the PS2.

So what, you want to jog with a
> Gamecube attached to your belt ? If you want a portable game system, buy a
> GBA.

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This whole shape and size thing is silly. You buy a console to play games, not to look at. The Xbox is just the right size for a console, and fits snugly on top of a VCR or DVD player. As for the GameCube, a square shape isn't the most ergonomical, and as for having a top-opening lid...
But why argue about the actual shape of a console?
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GC is cheap and the
> x-box is twice as expensive.

X-Box is
> also more powerful, has a hard drive which has the potential to be more than
> just a big memory card and is broadband ready.

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No, this is where Microsoft are milking the cash cow. There is no proper reason why the Xbox couldn't be £200, except for extortion. It isn't broadband ready, and the hard drive only takes up about £20 of the price, not extra. You're getting this whole 'expensive hard drive' malarky from the price of the PS2 one.
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Nintendo are commited to
> your every whim... if
> you want a new accessories you'll get them.

Ok,
> so where do I send my letter of demand for a headset to use online to talk to
> other players ?

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Logitech, who are signed up by Nintendo to make one for when Ninty (finally) goes on line. Looks like your letter is arriving a bit late...
--------

Sure x-box has 8GB drive but the
> GC has endless
> memory cards.

Yeah and they cost money too. X-Box has memory cards in case
> you actually ever need one. Gamecube's memory cards aren't all that large in
> space. So the "cheap" console will soon make its money up.

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Well, actually that's wrong. 8mb is a lot for a memory card, and you can always get a 40mb memory card, which will be much cheaper than a hard drive, and won't run out of space. This whole memory card thing is pointless.
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The
> x-box has only 1 colour... take your pick
> with the GC.

Oh my god, a
> purple or black Gamecube ! My god that alone is worth selling my X-Box for
> !

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Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. And I'm still surprised that you have managed to use it in some form, judging by the rest of your intellect.
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I hate Bill gates... he keeps making better computers... and my
> one
> cheaper!

And he's made a good console which can only make you more bitter as
> a Ninty.

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Bill Gates hasn't done a damn thing about the Xbox, except by saying something along the lines of 'lets make a console and dominate that industry too'. Comprende?
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Sun 17/03/02 at 14:32
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I take it you didn't agree with my statements... anyway the GC is orange as well... and more colours to come!
Sun 17/03/02 at 14:23
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"ATAT Supremo"
Posts: 6,238
Weird Wonder wrote:
> Don't get an X-box.

Name something x-box gains over GC and I could tell you
> just as many advantages GC has over x-box.

Sure the X-box has a faster
> polygon rate but the GC is made by Nintendo... skilled console makers.

So why did the N64 get totally pounded by the PS1 ?

Sure
> X-box has the internet... but Ninty are holding out to see if the internet
> gaming industry will flop.

No, Ninty are just spineless and would rather cash in when another company such as Microsoft has had the guts to do it first.

Sure x-box has good games and adverts... but the
> GC has personal characters like Mario and LINK.

And how many times are they gonna milk the same games, just giving them better graphics. The Zelda games never seem to link either, just different situations of the same story - Zelda gets kidnapped, lazy git elf has to do something about it, elf bumps into big nasty Gannon who he has "never" seen before despite the appearance of the bloke in all the other games. How many times can one princess get captured !? Get a couple of body guards you silly cow !


Plus I reckon x-box should be
> taken to court 'cos my mate told me there were these x-box symbols. duo, Octo
> and Link!
There are a few more I think!

What ?? You muppet !


GC is small and portable. X-box is
> purely a shelf console that's even uglier than the PS2.

So what, you want to jog with a Gamecube attached to your belt ? If you want a portable game system, buy a GBA.


GC is cheap and the
> x-box is twice as expensive.

X-Box is also more powerful, has a hard drive which has the potential to be more than just a big memory card and is broadband ready.


Nintendo are commited to your every whim... if
> you want a new accessories you'll get them.

Ok, so where do I send my letter of demand for a headset to use online to talk to other players ?


Sure x-box has 8GB drive but the
> GC has endless memory cards.

Yeah and they cost money too. X-Box has memory cards in case you actually ever need one. Gamecube's memory cards aren't all that large in space. So the "cheap" console will soon make its money up.


The x-box has only 1 colour... take your pick
> with the GC.

Oh my god, a purple or black Gamecube ! My god that alone is worth selling my X-Box for !


I hate Bill gates... he keeps making better computers... and my
> one cheaper!

And he's made a good console which can only make you more bitter as a Ninty.



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Sun 17/03/02 at 14:22
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But ya wont need them unless you've used 8GB of hard disk memory!
Sun 17/03/02 at 14:15
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Xbox does have memory cards though.
Sun 17/03/02 at 14:14
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i aint really interested in the internet on PS2 or XBOX but i still like the idea of no memory cards for the XBOX
Sun 17/03/02 at 14:00
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Online Console gaming is too fussy. I don't think it will take off very well, because not many people will understand what to do. But that is only what methinks.
Sun 17/03/02 at 12:19
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Posts: 5,029
It has the ethernet adapter, but to use it you need to already have broadband lines in your home.

Its like having a modem without a telephone wire. But that's alright if you already have broadband.
Sun 17/03/02 at 12:14
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i think XBOX has a built in broadband dont it?
Sun 17/03/02 at 12:10
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Posts: 2,925
Don't get an X-box.

Name something x-box gains over GC and I could tell you just as many advantages GC has over x-box.

Sure the X-box has a faster polygon rate but the GC is made by Nintendo... skilled console makers.

Sure X-box has the internet... but Ninty are holding out to see if the internet gaming industry will flop.

Sure x-box has good games and adverts... but the GC has personal characters like Mario and LINK.

Plus I reckon x-box should be taken to court 'cos my mate told me there were these x-box symbols. duo, Octo and Link!
There are a few more I think!

GC is small and portable. X-box is purely a shelf console that's even uglier than the PS2.

GC is cheap and the x-box is twice as expensive.

Nintendo are commited to your every whim... if you want a new accessories you'll get them.

Sure x-box has 8GB drive but the GC has endless memory cards.

The x-box has only 1 colour... take your pick with the GC.

I hate Bill gates... he keeps making better computers... and my one cheaper!

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