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Sat 08/03/03 at 14:26
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And it is very very good.

I've played the game solidly(:P) since last night and the majority of the time was spent on the 350+ VR missions, which are more enjoyable than the main game, not to mention challanging.

I havn't even had time to do the Alternate missions or Snakes tales yet. This game is value for money.

Buy it.
Sun 09/03/03 at 21:47
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ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> How does the Sons of Libity game compare to the original on the PS2?
> Are the graphics any sharper? Has anyone played the game in 5.1? If so
> please would you comment on how good it is? Thanks!

Since the early rain effects were coded for PS2, the Xbox version slows down whenever these are used. Aside from that however, the graphics are exactly the same. 5.1, though nice, makes no noticeable difference, apparently.
Sun 09/03/03 at 21:44
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Mantis wrote:
> Cheaper? No, I paid 39.99.

PS2 games are cheaper than any other. Where it would cost you £39.99 on Xbox, it would be £29.99 on PS2.

> Better controle? Not in my opinion, and ive played the game, you
> havn't.

I have Sons Of Liberty, so that's a fair comparison and I just don't like the Xbox controller in general - too logical and uninspired for me. Poorly designed.

> Skateboarding? Not sure, there are alot of unlockable stuff in the
> Xbox version, skateboarding might be one.

All Xbox features are in the PS2 one, plus PS2 gets exclusives skateboarding from Konami's 'Evolution Skateboarding'.
Sun 09/03/03 at 21:20
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How does the Sons of Libity game compare to the original on the PS2? Are the graphics any sharper? Has anyone played the game in 5.1? If so please would you comment on how good it is? Thanks!
Sun 09/03/03 at 20:25
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Mav wrote:
> And it's cheaper, with better controls/controller - plus you get a Skateboarding mini game.

Cheaper? No, I paid 39.99.

Better controle? Not in my opinion, and ive played the game, you havn't.

Skateboarding? Not sure, there are alot of unlockable stuff in the Xbox version, skateboarding might be one.

Oh, anyone who has the game and is playing VR missions, tell your highest scores here if you're proud of em, or upload the code you are given to

http://www.konamijpn.com/products/mgs2_sub /missions/stage_list.php?pl=0&plat=1®=2&lang=0 (Remove space)

A few have appeared already, and its only been out 2 days.
Sun 09/03/03 at 11:45
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Mantis wrote:
> And it does seam the PS2 version is better(for once), no slowdown,
> although I have stressed there is barely any of it.

And it's cheaper, with better controls/controller - plus you get a Skateboarding mini game.
Sun 09/03/03 at 10:04
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Mantis wrote:
> adrian wrote:
> I know its got alot of extras but its still basically the same game as
> the PS2 original version.
>
> Trade in the PS2 version, and get substance. If your a fan of the
> gameplay in MGS, you'll love substance.

Yes and get a the price equilvant of a packet of crisps in the process. Its not the money issue about getting the game again, its about spending money on a game which I have already played and completed. Yes its different, yes theres tons of extras but currently I have very little time to play games and I dont really want to be playing a game I completed a year ago. I will probably get Substance in the summer or when its cheaper, but at the moment I am looking forward to playing Resident Evil Zero, Metroid Prime, Zelda, Silent Hill 3, Devil May Cry 2 etc as they are games I have not played yet.
Sun 09/03/03 at 00:47
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Mantis wrote:
> Opps before someone who loves the PS2(probably wookie) points out, you
> should trade in MGS2, and get substace, for either Xbox or PS2.
>
> And it does seam the PS2 version is better(for once), no slowdown,
> although I have stressed there is barely any of it.

i'm trading my MGS:2 for MGS:2 substance on x box :)
Sat 08/03/03 at 23:38
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Opps before someone who loves the PS2(probably wookie) points out, you should trade in MGS2, and get substace, for either Xbox or PS2.

And it does seam the PS2 version is better(for once), no slowdown, although I have stressed there is barely any of it.
Sat 08/03/03 at 23:33
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adrian wrote:
> I know its got alot of extras but its still basically the same game as the PS2 original version.

Trade in the PS2 version, and get substance. If your a fan of the gameplay in MGS, you'll love substance. Not to mention the face i've spent more time on the VR missions than the main game itself.

And not to get controversial, but I really do feel MGS plays better with the Xbox Pad. Instead of using R1 to get first person view point, you juts click in the left thumbstick, its really intuative. Other than that its the same.

And the slowdown apparant in the Xbox version? I havn't seen any so far during gameplay whatsoever, perhaps it was only the american version that was bad. There was some slight slowdown during the opening sequence of the game when snake ran and jumped of the bridge, but other than that, ive seen none.

Its one of the best value games out there. If you, like me, enjoy completing challanges tot he best of your ability, you will love the VR section. It remeinds me of PGR, you can quickly blast though some of them, but the real enjoyment is going back and playing untill you get the "glod medal" so to speak.
Sat 08/03/03 at 16:06
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I got a copy of it today!
Being a great fan of MGS1 I love the game, I had only played snippets of the original PS2 version though.

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