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"The Nintendo Factor"

When it comes to the future of gaming I expertise especially when it involves Nintendo. Sadly offering you a balanced opinion and offering you both sides of the argument is both something I can't do and boring so here I will write why it should be Nintendo whom should triumph above the rest.

The N64 had problems yes it was a good system with stunning titles from Nintendo and it's 2nd party developers particularly RARE so with this awesome strength the console why did it cower in the shadow of the Playstation? Simple the Playstation appealed to 3rd party developers they are people who develop for all systems and the N64 wasn't just hard to work on but also expensive (due to cartridges). Now though times have changed, Nintendo have finally upgraded to disc format it is sad to say goodbye to the versatile cartridges but this new Disc format is very similar to Carts. For starters due to the size of the disc not only is it hard to pirate but it also has amazingly short loading times, unnoticeable in some cases (the discs look pretty nifty as well).

So the new disc format is very clever and now 3rd party developers that were attracted to Sony's shiny discs are now attracted to Nintendo as well. Nintendo have also made the Gamecube very very very easy to work on compared to the PS2, which has been described as a pig to programme. So ok how does the effect us? Well it means 3rd parties, which made Sony so popular, are flocking to the Gamecube. Namco makers of classic titles such as Tekken, Soul Calibur and Ridge Racer is bringing no less than 6 Gamecube titles ALREADY a company that took 4 years to commit to the N64 has committed to the Gamecube before it's release with titles including Soul Calibur, Ridge Racer and it is heavily rumored that a Tekken game is in the pipeline.

It isn't just Namco, Capcom famous for MegaMan, Street Fighter and Resident Evil is committing themselves to the Gamecube with tones of titles including Mickey Mouse and 6!!! Resident Evil games a remade and gorgeous Resident Evil and ports of Resident Evil 2/3 and Code Veronica as well as Resident Evil 0 and 4 all EXCLUSIVE to Gamecube which means that no more Resident Evil games are coming out on Playstation 2 or X-box.

Nintendo have also given the Gamecube a low price tag after throwing away the ability to play DVD's and CD's (although a special Panasonic is being released in Japan that allows this). Some of you may see this as a downside to the Gamecube, I don't. If you want a DVD player then get a DVD player if you want a Games Console then get a Games Console these new Multi-Media systems such as the X-box and PS2 have substandard versions of both games console and DVD player. The Gamecube’s Controller is new and comfortable the X-box is huge, ugly and difficult to negotiate the PS2's is nice but it feels the same as the last one (it has more pressure points I know) and therefore makes the PS2 feel like the same old PS1 it just doesn’t make the console feel Next generation.

Nintendo have also signed new second party developers on bored including Silicon Knights, Retro Studios, Left Field and Camelot (as well as RARE and HAL of course). These developers are stunning and with the increase of 3rd party support the Gamecube is a must buy. Nintendo are not childish either Mario and Pokemon are not childish get rid of Pokèmon’s cute graphics and you have animals stabbing, burning, shooting, cutting, hitting, kicking and blowing up each other that’s barley legal and with games such as Conker (that rude gory platformer), Perfect Dark, Metroid, Too Human, Eternal Darkness, 6 Resident Evil titles, Agent Under fire, Turok etc... etc... how can you call them childish?

The console has been described as a childs play toy but stack 10 CD cases up and you'll realize how small and compact the console is.

These are few of the best future Gamecube releases:

Mario Sunshine, Perfect Dark 0, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Zelda GC, Resident Evil, Mickey Mouse, Super Smash Brothers: Melee, Pokemon Game, Resident Evil 2, Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet, Kameo: elements of power, Donkey Kong Racing, James Bond: Agent Under Fire, Turok Evolution, Too Human, Luigi's Mansion, Resident Evil 3, Metroid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure 2, Kirby Tilt and Tumble, Mario Kart GC, Wave Race: Blue Storm, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars rogue leader, Resident Evil 0, Soul Calibur 2, Simpson's Road Rage, 1080 Snowboarding 2, Conker's Other Bad Day (not yet official), Resident Evil 4, Animal Forest, Virtual Striker, Phantasy Star Online V2, Skies of Arcadia, Marionette, FIFA, ISS, Castlevania, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, Extreme G3, 100 Mario's and so many many many more...

Along with all of them (only 6 or 7 of which appear on the Playstation 2) Nintendo's super hand held the Gameboy Advance links up with the Gamecube more than ever in games such as Kirby Tilt and Tumble, Animal Forest and Sonic Adventure 2 (it can be used as an alternative controller) and with Sega's Sonic Team offering full support (they make Sonic, NiGHTS and Phantasy Star online) The Gamecube is one of the worlds most essential consoles.

Here's to the future

Dringo

Stryke wrote:
> The Game wrote:
> Wierd.

Ditto. Not notable-hood for you, young Dringo. I
> bet you're devestated, eh? ;-)

Well i thought as i could kill myself and this psot was indeed a one sided biased op it was meant to be :)

I don't know why PS2 owners are so bothered about the GC being far better than the PS2. When you think about it, the PS2 has been going for quite a while now, more than a year I believe. So surely the next PS console will be better than the GC since it's going to come out later, right? Perhaps PS2 owners are just trying to avoid the idea of upgrading to a better system, like the X-Box which has similar style games to the PS2 but is a superior technology to the PS2. Maybe PS2 owners don't want to admit how much they'd like to get a GC especially the ones who never have a nice word to say about it. Now if you are a PS2 owner and you try to argue with me I'll just say you wont admit the truth, so you can't win MUHUHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!

Anyway, yes I think the GC will be an excellent console and should continue the Nintendo tradition of high quality games which are great fun and very unique in style. Now the reason I have never and will never get a PS2 is because the games have a tendency to be too much like games I can get on a PC and lack all the advantages that go with the PC, such as upgrades and constantly improving technology. Anyway there are better and newer consoles on their way as we speak so I guess you're better to save and get one of the real Next Generation consoles than spend £200 on something that never took full advantage of itself because it could run games from the original PS. PS games are still being released but nobody would buy a PS because they want the higher quality that PS2s can provide, unfortunately some developers are releasing new games which would work on a very old system for the PS2 and not giving PS2 owners value for money.

The "PS3: Just Bring it" should be good when it comes out since it will have had some time to improve it's technology, while the GC and X-Box will be a year old by the time the PS3 is released. So it's up to you, do you wait however long for the next Sony console and stick with what you have now in the hopes it will last, or do you upgrade to one of the new consoles and stick with that until you can next upgrade? Well it's up to you, I'm not going to give you all the answers. Anyway, enough of my random blathering. I'd just like to say that I will be getting one of the new consoles, stay tuned to see which. Perhaps when the PS3 is released I'll get one of those but it will depend on Sony improving their ridiculous adverts.

Grix Thraves wrote:
> Ok, for ssxpro, I'll get rid of any games that I have no intention of getting
> from that list.

Mario Sunshine, Perfect Dark 0, Resident Evil: Code Veronica,
> Zelda GC, Resident Evil One, Resident Evil 2, Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur
> Planet, Kameo: elements of power, James Bond: Agent Under Fire, Too Human,
> Luigi's Mansion, Resident Evil 3, Metroid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure 2, Mario
> Kart GC, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars rogue leader,
> Resident Evil 0, Soul Calibur 2, 1080 Snowboarding 2, Conker's Other Bad Day,
> Resident Evil 4, Animal Forest, Phantasy Star Online V2 (ONLY if I don't have to
> pay to use it), Skies of Arcadia 2!, ISS, Castlevania...


- Now if I bought one, the games I would get would be:

Zelda GC, Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur
Luigi's Mansion, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure 2, Mario Kart GC, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars rogue leader,
Soul Calibur 2, 1080 Snowboarding 2, Conker's Other Bad Day,
Phantasy Star Online V2 (I dont care if u have to pay, its gonna be good n e way) Skies of Arcadia 2!

Grix Thraves wrote:

>Skies of Arcadia 2 though... I'm going to be queuing for that
> one.

Same here, same here. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme! See, I'm already getting into the christmas spirit!

Jcsuperstar: The Saviour of Souls

ResÆvilfan wrote:
> Whats the point of this topic?

I think thats a question only YOU can answer... by looking deeply within YOURSELF.

Whats the point of this topic?

Dringo wrote:
> When it comes to the future of gaming I expertise

Ouch! Does it hurt?

Ok, for ssxpro, I'll get rid of any games that I have no intention of getting from that list.

Mario Sunshine, Perfect Dark 0, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Zelda GC, Resident Evil One, Resident Evil 2, Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet, Kameo: elements of power, James Bond: Agent Under Fire, Too Human, Luigi's Mansion, Resident Evil 3, Metroid, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure 2, Mario Kart GC, Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Star Wars rogue leader, Resident Evil 0, Soul Calibur 2, 1080 Snowboarding 2, Conker's Other Bad Day, Resident Evil 4, Animal Forest, Phantasy Star Online V2 (ONLY if I don't have to pay to use it), Skies of Arcadia 2!, ISS, Castlevania...

That's actually a lot more than I thought. And this really is an honest list of games. I expect money will stop me from buying all of them, or the amount of gads I win... ;0)

But really, all those games there interest me. But if there would be something I leave out it would probably be some of the Resident Evils. I'll get the remake of number one, because I've hardly played it, and it would be interesting... and stuff like Castlevania, and 1080 2, which I haven't seen properly yet.

Skies of Arcadia 2 though... I'm going to be queuing for that one.

ssxpro wrote:

As for
> all those titles you listed, did you read any of them? I only ask because it
> seems you forgot to take out all the titles that are basically rubbish, and
> instead listed all the titles you could remember/find.

Well EVERYONE seems to do that with games lists now days...
I try not to but others seem to bung whatever they can do, no matter what side of the console war their on.

Half the rubbish ones on Dringo's list were PS2 conversions anyway...

Dringo wrote:
Conker (that rude gory platformer) ... how can you call them childish?

Conkers as childish as they come.
Would you see an adult fighting against the giant poo monster or feeding a mouse cheese?

Which brings me to another point.

Most people who slate Nintendo as a kiddies console are just using the easiest dig that comes to mind - it's like calling the PS2 a sequel station.

Although games like Zelda and Mario aren't as mature as the "grown up and sensible" Gran Tourismo 3, that doesn't make them kiddie games.

And they;re hardly any less mature than the likes of Tekken or Metal Gear Solid in any way apart from the graphics style.
They simply don't try to sell themselves on violence.

A pretty good one sided op. Actually really good.

>Nice

I think the lack or releases was a real problem for Nintendo...

Although the PS1 was slagged off for having a lot of duff releases...

(although, I'm sure there were plenty of gems to?)

Because of constantly high number of releases it always felt like there was something going on with the PS1... it felt more organic... and a lot more contemporary...

It may be that PS1 games dont age as well as N64 titles... but with consoles, as with computers, its only really the here and now that matters...