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Mon 22/10/01 at 13:11
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You cant step into a park, walk down a street or get on some public transport without seeing some teenager dressed in black. these people are gothics or goths as they are usualy called.

why are they that way is what i want to know. its usualy connected to music. when i listen to music, like papa roach or linkin park, it doesnt make me want to dress up all in black, but it does make goths do it.in most of these bands the members dont go around looking like the way goths do, they wear baggy t-shirts etc.

me and my mate went into reading the other day. there is this park that lies between the town and the big out of town shops like comet and toys r us.i call the par 'goth park' as it is full of gothics. anyway me and my mate walked into thge park and he said 'i dont see any goths here' i told him to look at a tree, he looked over at a big tree that i was pointing to, underneath it was a group of 30 - 40 goths, just sat there.everywhere you looked the was groups of goths, some small, some big. It was a bit like steping into Jurassic park, the whole place was over run by goths.

I didnt really used to care about goths but now I do.I had been best friends with someone since year 7, then in year 10 he started to get reallyt into rock and heavy metal music.slowly we began to grow apart, then he stopped hanging with me and everyone else he used to be friends with, and befriended this group of outcasts.then we all went away for two weeks of work experience, i was on my luch break, down town and i saw the guy i just mentioned whos name is ollie.he was walking around with his mum and baby sister, wearing a big, black, hooded, maralyn manson top and he had died his hair black, and geled it up into spike things.soon rumours started to pour in when we were back at school, ollie wears black nail varnish and things like that. these rumours were confirmed last friday, when we had a non uniform day. he came to school completly goth'ed up, he had black trowsers that were covered in safety pins, loads of black, spikey braclets, another black top,a bag covered with black writing saying things like
'you have the right to bleed'which was also covered in safety pins and he had black nail varnish.he was showing off his nokia phone a bit as well, which he had spray painted black and covered with spikes. the dumbest thing of all is if you say to him that hes a goth, he will danie it and say that he isnt.

This guy ( that i just spoke about) once was my best friend, who loved nintendo.i remember him telling me onbce that he had seen a friend from his old school in town one day.his friend had gone goth since he had last seen him.ollie said to me that the boy was wearing all black, chains,spikes and even black lipstick. ollie went on to say how he took the mick out of the boy and told him how stupid he looked. i think that thios friend had something to do with his change.he had brown hair and dressed like normal people, now that he has changed i dont speak to him, i just stay away.were now in year 11, i have not made any contact with him for almost a year.

When you ask a goth why they dress in black, they usualy say something like this:

Its represents the act of death, and the meaningless of life

Its cool

I do it to be different

Why do they say it makes them different? the first few people who did it were different, but now that there are loads of them, they arnt different or unique.

If you see anyone doing these things or whearing these things, there could only be a matter of time until they go goth on you:

Wearing all black
Carrying chains
wearing spiky neclesses or braclets
dying their hair black
writing 'evil' things on their bags
painting their nails black
wearing black lipstick
sitiing still, not moving, talking or laughing in a park
or any over goth like behaviour

I just dont know why they become that way.is it a cry for help, an act of rebellion or do they just want to look dumb and have everyone take the mick ad throw things at them? we may never know.

theres a small group of goths at my school, about 4 and their kind of leader is my old best friend.is there any near you?

I hope none of you on this forum are,but if anyone is, why are you and whats good about it?

thanks for reading
CDouch
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:26
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I found myself strangely drawn to the ugly Australian 'children' who are clearly in there 20's, with their bad hair, and worse stories.
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:22
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Heartbreak high.





















You mug.
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:21
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Thats no excuse!

Unless you were so ill you couldn't move, someone had left the TV on that specific channel and when you shut your eyes the room span.

Then perhaps I can let it go.
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:20
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You were sick, not a woman.

There is no excuse Mr Dragon.
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:18
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The real question here is this:

Did CDouch watch Heartbreak High on Monday?

(I have an excuse, I was off work sick)
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:13
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Bruce?????

The Goth thing I can dig, we're all teens once..but Bruce????
Wed 24/10/01 at 13:11
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Loki used to be a Goth - fact. And he used to be in a band called Bruce.
Tue 23/10/01 at 22:35
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Well said Kitty! A fair and mature attitude, only beaten by one other stream of thought.

"Goths - Bash first, worry about moral implications later"
Tue 23/10/01 at 21:16
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Some of my best friends are Goths. Joke. Well one once was when she was going through her "my life is hell and no one understands phase". But that's generally it. Its a youth thing. If you are feeling alienated, p***ed off and misunderstood what better way of flaunting your sense of alienation then dressing in black, drinking cider and listening to whiney music. God knows that will make you feel bad even if you didn't before.
I think there is a problem when any group feel they have the monopoly on pain. No one feels it as bad as they do and they are somewhere high up on the moral highground painting their nails black. But this isn't a fair description of all goths. It is a way of expressing your individuality in the same way as it is being a skinhead or any of the other subcultures.
I had a friend at uni who was a skinhead. Great big bloke with a skinhead. Yup spot the cliche alert, he was a gentle giant. He was not a racist and was into the whole ska/skin scene or "suedeheads" as he liked to be called. For him it was a Litmus test. If people immediately reacted to him being a skinhead made assumptions about his personality and wrote him off then he knew they weren't worth spending time with. I appreciate its fairly juvenille in that there are a lot of people who would have very bad experiences of skins - justly so. He grew out of it - short hair - not the music.
People adopt music/clothes/politics whatever to reflect what they feel at that time. It doesn't however reflect everything and it doesn't mean its written in stone. My theory is that idiots come in all shapes and sizes. Learn to see through the image. If he's a good bloke he still will be under the hoodie and nail varnish. If he's an idiot its just incidental he's a goth.
Tue 23/10/01 at 19:15
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DR. Duck - you have a fad to claim, if you dont want it,i'll take it off your hands.

its in the unclaimed section

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