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Tue 24/06/03 at 12:54
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"This is gay"
"That's gay"
2 topics with gay as an insult, have read about "fudge-packing ID nazis" "beardy gay games"

So? When was it wrong to be homosexual?
Am I in Time Bandits or Bill and Ted's or something? Have I ended up in The Middle Ages or Church of England? (I'd say Catholic but child molestation humour is soooo '02)
Tue 24/06/03 at 17:22
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gay isn't only a name for homosexual people, it is also a slang term meaning sad, gimpish, pathetic etc.

this being the case I think it is closer to the classic meaning of the word gay, being happy, frolicking like a pixie and so on.

:D
Tue 24/06/03 at 16:53
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Oh I'm as guilty as can be of doing the exact same thing.
My point is, it's PC gone mad.

My view is that if you are gay/black/brown/yellow/orange/fat/short/short sighted and you want equal rights then that means you have to be mocked, just like us white, heterosexual anglo-saxons.

We're the most oppressed group on the planet yet have to suffer.
I wasn't playing Devil's Advocate, I'm just interested in what people think. Admittedly, my examples were at the extreme end of the spectrum but some could say the same for "tard" or "Gay"
In fact in the workplace, anti-discrimination has reached the point where you have to double check everything you say or do.
Tue 24/06/03 at 16:50
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And to think that in bygone years calling someone gay meant that they were happy.

Where has the laughter gone?
Tue 24/06/03 at 16:38
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Well, "stinking coon" has no other meaning apart from a racist one, whereas calling someone "gay" has.

But, I see your point.

However, what about when someone's called a "tard" which is (based on your theory) equally as insulting? Have you ever called someone a "tard"?
So, if you haven't called someone a "tard" before, fair enough and I apologise for the inference. However, if you have, then you can understand my point?

Anyway, either way, I'm not too bothered. Anyone who is actively homophobic should wake up and get a life - we're living in the real world and someone's sexual tendencies shouldn't be the subject of base derogatory, puerile insults. But alas, not everyone shares my opinion.
Tue 24/06/03 at 16:08
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Moi?

I just dont see any difference between "you're so gay" as an insult and something equally as discriminatory like "You're such a nig-nog".
Can you see my point?
The word may have changed meaning from being happy etc to being used as a term of derogative insult, but why is ok to call someone "gay" because you think they/it is stupid/worthless, yet were I to call you a "stinking coon" then, rightfully, I'd be shown the door and hopefully beaten up.

An insult is still an insult, especially one specifically designed to target a minority group that faces continual prejudice from Joe Public.
Tue 24/06/03 at 16:04
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Yeah, I've always associated the word gay with incredible stupidity or plain rubbishness.

At school...
Teacher: "What's the capital of France?"
Sarah: "It's Madrid, sir!"
Me: "Sir, Sarah's being gay!"


Although I seldom use the term now I know that the majority of forums member aren't being homophobic, but instead are being insulting. Obviously, just like in the past when "gay" meant something joyous and lighthearted, the meaning of the word has changed over the years. Like most words, in fact.

Surely, you can discern this, Goatboy, or are you just throwing oil on the fire and playing devil's advocate to provoke a reaction?
Tue 24/06/03 at 15:58
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DébUK wrote:
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> So what would you say if someone used the 'n' word, or any other
> racist term 'jokingly', hmmn...'CrazyCol' and 'outcast' are the words
> that spring to mind.
>
What's Colin ever done to you!?!?
Tue 24/06/03 at 15:53
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Hercules! wrote:
> Arent you the same Deb, Toms sister, who enjoys insulting little
> friends of Toms such as Azul with your big, grown-up friends of yours?

What? I've spoken to Azul before, and he's an OK bloke. What my friends do is not my responsibility, but I haven't insulted him myself.
Tue 24/06/03 at 15:41
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Using 'gay' as descriping some as being crap/rubbish etc had crept into my vocabularly and I wish it kinda hadn't because I'm not homophobic at all.

Tsk Tsk
Tue 24/06/03 at 13:58
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Arent you the same Deb, Toms sister, who enjoys insulting little friends of Toms such as Azul with your big, grown-up friends of yours?

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