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Tue 28/10/03 at 20:01
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"es argh"
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http://special.reserve.co.uk/news/story.php?id=2896

BAH!

We keep saying "It wont be long until they buy the better game"

But it's been so long, bah stupid stupid people spending MORE on a much crapper game.

*Angry face*

*Plays PES3 at night with it raining* Wow, thats 2 things FIFA hasnt got and people have still bought the game.

Knobcheeses

Ah well, lets hope they come to their senses and start to convert to the good side before Christmas
Wed 29/10/03 at 20:40
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"Picking a winner!"
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Can't you guys agree to disagree

Right Crazy likes FIFA because it is online and PES3 is not.

Badgerman likes PES3 because to him it recreates the beautiful game better than FIFA.
Wed 29/10/03 at 20:49
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"sdomehtongng"
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bUt Pesse£23343 iz rubishz!11111! one
Wed 29/10/03 at 21:27
" Crazy!"
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natbuc wrote: But just because it's not as good doesn't mean it's crap

Exactly what I was trying to get across, well along the same lines.

I don't see how Neo can have such bad feelings for Fifa, maybe if he had played the game for more than say 30 mins.
Thu 30/10/03 at 11:21
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"es argh"
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The craziest Col! wrote:

> Having the gameplay isn't all what a game is about. If it has extras
> like Online play then, quite frankly, it annihilates the rest.

So you'd rather play, lets say... a wall painting game than PES3 alone?

Fool, online play anihalates the rest?

Well I hope the fools that bought FIFA (and not PES) don't play as well as they purchase, otherwise online play would be very, very crappy
Thu 30/10/03 at 11:24
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"[SE] Shadow Elite"
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Badgerman, online play's the tats. SOCOM rules, but as i haven't even played FIFA yet, let alone online, i'm not going to comment. As Crazy! said earlier, the list of upcoming online games is quality, DDA, THUG and SSX3 all look amazing.
Thu 30/10/03 at 11:31
" Crazy!"
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Badgerman wrote:
> The craziest Col! wrote:
>
> Having the gameplay isn't all what a game is about. If it has extras
> like Online play then, quite frankly, it annihilates the rest.
>
> So you'd rather play, lets say... a wall painting game than PES3
> alone?
>
> Fool, online play anihalates the rest?
>
> Well I hope the fools that bought FIFA (and not PES) don't play as
> well as they purchase, otherwise online play would be very, very
> crappy

No, people are dumn but not idiots.

If they want wall painting they buy a Eye toy and use wishi washi instead.

hell, I reckon if they put the eyetoy online you'ld say the same.
Thu 30/10/03 at 11:43
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"[SE] Shadow Elite"
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Right, i think it's about time i put my point across in the argument between Crazy! and Badgerman.

Fact is, online play is amazing, SOCOM and Halo (PC) are just so much better than PES3 in my opinion, and that's because the makers of these games weren't lazy like Konami have been. Everyone has a go at EA for going out year by year and buying the FIFA license, but i think that's what Konami have tried to achieve this year. There's no doubt that PES games are great, but like FIFA games, there is minimal improvement year-by-year. This year, Konami has made the slightest improvement on the graphics engine, bought a few club team licenses and put Collina on the game cover. As for sorting out the main problems, they've avoided that and added these along with other stuff, such as the "i never work" hand ball and advantage rules. Konami needed to sort out the tackling, it's still so poor. Slide someone, win the ball fair and square, player falls on his face, red card. As for the Master League, as good as always, and visit my master league walkthrough at www.ukwalkthroughs.com :D FIFA, however, have gone out of there way to put 2004 online, which is also meant to be the dogs.

There, i have sided with FIFA although i haven't even played the game, but that's only because of Konami's very lazy effort towards PES3. Pro Evo, great game, but still so many flaws...
Thu 30/10/03 at 11:48
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
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So what your saying is Fifa is better because it's online in a long winded fashion?
Thu 30/10/03 at 11:51
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"[SE] Shadow Elite"
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I haven't played FIFA yet, i was just pointing out what's wrong with PES3. But yes, online play is amazing on the PS2, and i'd imagine FIFA to be very good online.
Thu 30/10/03 at 12:02
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"Profit of Doom"
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ELJUICY wrote:
> Right, i think it's about time i put my point across in the argument

Let me get this straight, IYO, SOCOM and Halo on the PC are better than Pro Evo 3 because of the online functionality? How can you come to that conclusion, they're different games man?

I agree with you that Konami need to start ploughing money into the franchise, but Pro Evo's ardent supporters know the game's improvements usually come in the form of enhancing it's core-dynamics, like the hand-ball and advantage plays.

Whilst these improvements are flawed, it still makes for a superior game than FIFA IMO.

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