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Yay, rediscovered this recently.
Absolutely fantastic, I recommend it to all you scum. It's jazz, but without being completely jazz. I like jazz, but I like jazz-rock even more, which is exactly what this is. And the drumming, fantasmic.
I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if when the Pumpkins finally get off their ar**s (can you say that on here yet? I forget) they end up with songs like Loki Cat and DIA. Oh yeah, and Billy Corgan's solo is excellent too.
Get it or something.
Absolutely fantastic, I recommend it to all you scum. It's jazz, but without being completely jazz. I like jazz, but I like jazz-rock even more, which is exactly what this is. And the drumming, fantasmic.
I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if when the Pumpkins finally get off their ar**s (can you say that on here yet? I forget) they end up with songs like Loki Cat and DIA. Oh yeah, and Billy Corgan's solo is excellent too.
Get it or something.
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+ Speed Kills acoustic is one of my favourite SP tracks evar.
I gotta listen to it sometime :D
Back to Machina, was part 2 actually any good? They promised that they would rock hard for Machina but it actually reeks of pop - 'I Of The Mourning' is a huge example of this ('radio, radio, play my song') - the song is pretty good but it just didn't have that edge they once had.
Another thing I noticed is how his voice started to change - back in the older days, Billy would scream and wail in pain, but the latter 2 albums lacked that urgency, and he sounded a bit more piercing through the speakers which can sound a bit crap. Lyrically he changed drastically, writing more obscure, poetic songs which seem a bit hard to relate to - intelligent though, but I missed his old style :(
As much as I don't like him, he is still my inspiration and idol, and elements of his style is sometimes found in my work. It's such a shame for what happened to them.
*sob*
Back to Machina, was part 2 actually any good? They promised that they would rock hard for Machina but it actually reeks of pop - 'I Of The Mourning' is a huge example of this ('radio, radio, play my song') - the song is pretty good but it just didn't have that edge they once had.
Another thing I noticed is how his voice started to change - back in the older days, Billy would scream and wail in pain, but the latter 2 albums lacked that urgency, and he sounded a bit more piercing through the speakers which can sound a bit crap. Lyrically he changed drastically, writing more obscure, poetic songs which seem a bit hard to relate to - intelligent though, but I missed his old style :(
As much as I don't like him, he is still my inspiration and idol, and elements of his style is sometimes found in my work. It's such a shame for what happened to them.
*sob*
Most of Machina II (Dross, Vanity, Soul Power, Go, SPEED KILLS = AMAZING, Let me give the world to you, Cash Car, Glass Theme, Home, In My Body, Innosense, Slow Dawn, Lucky 13, a few others) are absoloutely superb, really good stuff that could of gone on any normal album except MCIS and SD.
Oh yeah, White Spyder too, classic Pumpkins.
Yeah, they did change - but Billy was growing up, he couldn't stay angry teen scream angst all the time.
Anyway, they may be back....
Oh yeah, White Spyder too, classic Pumpkins.
Yeah, they did change - but Billy was growing up, he couldn't stay angry teen scream angst all the time.
Anyway, they may be back....
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