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Fri 14/10/05 at 16:37
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This has been discussed loads of times, but me and my mate are going on about it and we disagree with each other.

So, who would you drop out of the England side if you could only play 1 out of Gerrard and Lampard?

I had Lampard, because of his stats for Chelsea (6 goals in 11) and stats for England (5 goals in 10 in the group games)

He had Gerrard because he won Liverpool the European Cup and is a better defensive player than Lampard.

So who would you have and why?
Fri 14/10/05 at 16:37
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"Baros!!!"
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This has been discussed loads of times, but me and my mate are going on about it and we disagree with each other.

So, who would you drop out of the England side if you could only play 1 out of Gerrard and Lampard?

I had Lampard, because of his stats for Chelsea (6 goals in 11) and stats for England (5 goals in 10 in the group games)

He had Gerrard because he won Liverpool the European Cup and is a better defensive player than Lampard.

So who would you have and why?
Fri 14/10/05 at 16:45
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Gerrard
Fri 14/10/05 at 18:20
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I'd go for Lampard.
Fri 14/10/05 at 18:21
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Although you woldn't drop either, I'd keep Gerrard.
Fri 14/10/05 at 18:33
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Playing gerrard in the role beckham played for england a few matches ago would be ideal for england.
Fri 14/10/05 at 19:15
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Think it has to be Lampard as he scores more goals. If you've got someone as solid as king behind him you dont need to be defensive.
Fri 14/10/05 at 19:40
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They're both instrumental players. I prefer Steven Gerard and think he's more useful to a team particularly Liverpool, but the nature of England's play means they don't need huge runs through the middle but rather are more a flank side with overlapping full backs. I'd test them both out on their own and see who copes better, but I just expect Lampard would shade it.
Fri 14/10/05 at 20:27
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I think it's ben shown they can't work together - and with Ledley King, Lampard proved how weel he could play with him and I think we played better because of it (one attacking midfielder and one defensive midfielder). I think they're are the same in quality, but Lampard is better at scoring by far.

So it'd definitely be Lampard for me.
Fri 14/10/05 at 21:14
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Hold on a minute - am i missing something?

Any team in the world would want steven gerrard in their team, and given time he can work with lampard. lampard has been good for england recently, but before that he hasn't done much and Gerrard has been brilliant for Engalnd ever since he came in. Gerrard should take king's role behind lampard, as wasn't that stevie's prefered position anyway in Dm?
Fri 14/10/05 at 22:44
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Can we forget for a moment that the Poland game ever happened?

In the papers much was made of the Lampard-Gerrard central partnership before the Austria game. Stevie himself said that now was the time to seriously think about making it work.

While the match itself wasn't convincing or entertaining, the morning papers were unanimous in their verdict that the two central midfielders were our best players. It was by no means a World Cup winning performance, but it showed that the foundations were in place to build a successful piston-styled "you go, I drop" mentality in the middle of the park.

Despite how much more effective than usual Lampard looked with a purely defensive midfielder behind him, the idea of him and Gerrard playing well together should not be abandoned completely. Don't forget that the notion of purely attacking and defensive players was not always so widespread - there are plenty of teams who have made partnerships between players similar to Lampard and Gerrard work in the past. Don't take the need for specialists as gospel.

And I wouldn't drop either of them. They're too important. I would much sooner see Beckham go to make way for a holding midfielder - someone like Scott Parker who could play just behind Gerrard and Lampard and allow them both to go forward. Like the Essien-Makelele-Lampard trio at Chelsea, or the Gerrard-Hamann-Alonso midfield at Liverpool.

If you held me at gunpoint and asked me to decide, I would ask for Gerrard to be given the same opportunity as Lampard to display his full attacking credentials with a defensive partner and then make a choice. If that was denied me, I would pick Gerrard, mostly because I think he's clearly our most naturally gifted midfielder.

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