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They are so bloody hard to score against!
Anyone else found them hard to score agasint?
Anyone else found them hard to score agasint?
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lalakersrule wrote:
> I always try and score spectacular goals or great team goals for about
> 75 minutes then for the last 15 it's just frantic try and stuff it in
> the net whatever way time
Haha. It's like you're me, except for me it's the last 5. It's even more frantic then, but still highly possible.
I'm suprised no-ones really mentioned the irratic side of the keepers in PES4. To me, they make the saves you'd expect them to instead of flail an arm. However, now I seem to score freak goals which I never would have before. Like freekicks lobbing keepers on their line and stuff. I guess Konami would say that's part of the realism, unless it's just me.
I would add that in shooting situations (roughly one-on-one), people underestimate the tap in. I find that after I'm used to a games power bar and shot selection method, getting your player and literally rolling the ball into the net is the most effective method. In any situation I find that just tapping the ball will beat the keeper, because he's rushing out and the shot will be going low into a corner.
It is quite frustrating when it goes an inch wide at a crucial time, though.
> I always try and score spectacular goals or great team goals for about
> 75 minutes then for the last 15 it's just frantic try and stuff it in
> the net whatever way time
Haha. It's like you're me, except for me it's the last 5. It's even more frantic then, but still highly possible.
I'm suprised no-ones really mentioned the irratic side of the keepers in PES4. To me, they make the saves you'd expect them to instead of flail an arm. However, now I seem to score freak goals which I never would have before. Like freekicks lobbing keepers on their line and stuff. I guess Konami would say that's part of the realism, unless it's just me.
I would add that in shooting situations (roughly one-on-one), people underestimate the tap in. I find that after I'm used to a games power bar and shot selection method, getting your player and literally rolling the ball into the net is the most effective method. In any situation I find that just tapping the ball will beat the keeper, because he's rushing out and the shot will be going low into a corner.
It is quite frustrating when it goes an inch wide at a crucial time, though.
I always try and score spectacular goals or great team goals for about 75 minutes then for the last 15 it's just frantic try and stuff it in the net whatever way time
Yeah, give me an area you're crap in and I'll help. General all round stuff, though:
In one-on-ones, scoring is far easier than people think. To make sure you keep away from defenders, tap the direction in which you're running to do the super sprint. This'll ensure that players such as Thierry Henry aren't caught by people like Fabio Cannavaro in defense, which sometimes can happen without this speed boost. When you get near the keeper, hold Square as if you're attempting a normal shot, but at the last second tap R1, and you'll dink the ball over the keeper, who should already have commited himself if you've timed the move right. Alternatively, just knock the ball to the side of the keeper as he advances towards you, and with any luck you'll either be past him with an open goal ahead of you, or you'll be brought down, resulting in a penalty for you and a booking for the keeper.
Long shots are much better in PES4 as well, because of the more realistic ball physics and shooting system implemented by Konami. Say you're 25-35 yards out, and have a clear shot at goal. Provided the player has a relatively good shot, hold the shooting bar to just over half way and aim for the top corner. As the keepers stand further off their line, and the swerve and dip on the ball has been so improved, you've got a good chance of scoring.
This is the kind of stuff people seem to have problems with, although really the whole shooting and scoring aspect is in reality a lot more simple than has been made out.
In one-on-ones, scoring is far easier than people think. To make sure you keep away from defenders, tap the direction in which you're running to do the super sprint. This'll ensure that players such as Thierry Henry aren't caught by people like Fabio Cannavaro in defense, which sometimes can happen without this speed boost. When you get near the keeper, hold Square as if you're attempting a normal shot, but at the last second tap R1, and you'll dink the ball over the keeper, who should already have commited himself if you've timed the move right. Alternatively, just knock the ball to the side of the keeper as he advances towards you, and with any luck you'll either be past him with an open goal ahead of you, or you'll be brought down, resulting in a penalty for you and a booking for the keeper.
Long shots are much better in PES4 as well, because of the more realistic ball physics and shooting system implemented by Konami. Say you're 25-35 yards out, and have a clear shot at goal. Provided the player has a relatively good shot, hold the shooting bar to just over half way and aim for the top corner. As the keepers stand further off their line, and the swerve and dip on the ball has been so improved, you've got a good chance of scoring.
This is the kind of stuff people seem to have problems with, although really the whole shooting and scoring aspect is in reality a lot more simple than has been made out.
AfroJoe wrote:
> Meh, not really had any problems scoring, and I play it on 6-star.
>
> But yeah, if you're new to the game it's going to be more difficult.
> Once you learn how to finish it's quite easy.
Oh great God of Pro Evo, teach us in your wise ways...
> Meh, not really had any problems scoring, and I play it on 6-star.
>
> But yeah, if you're new to the game it's going to be more difficult.
> Once you learn how to finish it's quite easy.
Oh great God of Pro Evo, teach us in your wise ways...
I'm playing on 3 star just to rack up some points for transfers. Free scoring, usually 5 goals in 5 minute match.
Started off on 6 star with the original master league players and still managed to score quite often. Goalkeepers seem to be the same on one on ones, but much better at saving stuff from outside of the box.
Started off on 6 star with the original master league players and still managed to score quite often. Goalkeepers seem to be the same on one on ones, but much better at saving stuff from outside of the box.
not everyone is as great as you though
Meh, not really had any problems scoring, and I play it on 6-star.
But yeah, if you're new to the game it's going to be more difficult. Once you learn how to finish it's quite easy.
But yeah, if you're new to the game it's going to be more difficult. Once you learn how to finish it's quite easy.
Yea Pro Evo is one of the few games i play where i really get into and get nervous as i try to get that final goal with only 5 minutes left. And when you do it's a great feeling as you feel like you've earned it and worked hard for it unlike FIFA where you're 10-0 up in about 5 minutes
The keepers are a massive improvement from the last game, some of the saves they pull off are great. In my Master League i have been on 4 stars, and just gone to 5. Makes the game much better i think, some of the matches the keepers who are really on form are just impossible to get past, but when you finally do, with a minute to go, and win 1-0, doesnt half feel great!
I'm on 3 stars at moment and they seem quite balanced, they do pull off the occasional super save but most of the time they're realistic. Apart from last night when i was playing Newcastle and i was hurrying O'Brien, i knocked him over as he hit a backpass and the keeper just watched it roll in. Quite funny
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