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Tue 05/07/05 at 15:52
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Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has indicated a desire to leave Anfield following the European champions' decision to reject a bid from Chelsea.

Gerrard has declared his intention to quit his only club after rejecting Liverpool's offer of a new contract.

The two parties have been engaged in talks in a bid to end 12 months of uncertainty regarding his future on Merseyside.

Chelsea were keen to sign the midfielder last summer but Gerrard opted to reject the club's overtures to stay with his boyhood heroes.

The Reds' recent success in the UEFA Champions League final against Milan appeared to sway Gerrard into committing his long-term future to Rafa Benitez's side.

But discussions regarding a new deal have broken down in recent days and Gerrard's relationship with Liverpool's top brass is now beyond repair.

Liverpool have confirmed that talks to extend Gerrard's deal, which currently runs until 2007, are now over after the skipper expressed his determination to leave.

"The club has made it crystal clear we want to keep Steven at Anfield," read a club statement.

"Sadly, he has told us this afternoon that he will not accept our offer of an improved and extended contract because he wants to leave Liverpool.

"We very much regret the decision he has taken."

Gerrard's decision to publicly confirm his eagerness to quit Liverpool will now spark a transfer scramble for his services.

Chelsea have already confirmed their initial offer for the 25-year-old, believed to be in the region of £32 million, has been rejected and they are likely to come in with a revised bid.

Real Madrid are also interested but lack the financial muscle to compete with the Premiership champions and that could leave Chelsea as the sole realistic bidders for Gerrard.

The Reds will now be left in the position of trying to negotiate the best price for their midfield powerhouse and it is likely a British transfer record fee will be required to secure Gerrard's signature.



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Tue 05/07/05 at 20:07
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I wasn't being serious.

Time perhaps for Liverpool to nip in front of Chelsea and sign Wright-PHillips.

Need some quality English players...

Owen back to Liverpool as a part of the Gerrard deal?

Joe Cole to Liverpool as a part of the Gerrad deal?

Bring in Owen Hargreeves to bring an English backbone to the squad?

And a decent player for Carragher to work with in defence.

Liverpool technically have a great team already. They just need that spark.

And unless I'm mistaken Zenden is quick. Exactly what Liverpool need. A Baros that doesn't fluff everything.
Tue 05/07/05 at 20:32
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"Mozzy"
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Colourless wrote:
> Mozzy wrote:
> But we all know they aren't the best team in Europe, they were the
> best in that competition though.
>
> What?!?!
>
> So you're saying the best team in Europe weren't in the Champions
> League? Name please.

Meh, that wasn't what I meant. The best team in Europe isn't the team that won this years CL.
Tue 05/07/05 at 20:34
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Yes it was. Chelsea couldn't cope with Europe. In Britain they were great. But in Europe they struggled.

Liverpool on the other hand were solid in Europe, especially after the group stages.
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:01
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"Colourless"
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Dringo wrote:
> Yes it was. Chelsea couldn't cope with Europe. In Britain they were
> great. But in Europe they struggled.

Gahahahahaha.

Couldn't cope with Europe? Chelsea beat both Barcelona and Bayern 4-2.
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:02
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"Colourless"
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Mozzy wrote:
> Meh, that wasn't what I meant. The best team in Europe isn't the team
> that won this years CL.

Agreed. The best team in Europe lost 4-2 to us to go out in the first knockout stage.....
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:13
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"Brooklyn boy"
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Indeed, thanks to an uncharacteristic miss of a foul by Collina
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:14
"Darkness, always"
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AfroJoe wrote:
> But if you win the Champions League, technically you are the best
> team in Europe.

By the same logic, the winners of the FA Cup are the best team in England. Doesn't really stack up, does it?
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:31
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"sdomehtongng"
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Winning the Premiership is clearly a higher accolade than winning the FA Cup, though.

To make this situation truly comparable we'd need a European league as well. If there was a European league with the supposed top 20 teams in Europe in it (as well as the Champions League), it would be more highly rated than the Champions League. As there isn't, however, winning the Champions League is the biggest achievement that can be made in European club football.

Meanwhile, the FA Cup would only be the more prestigious title in England if the Premiership didn't exist. As the Premiership exists, this is not the case.


The Champions League is the tournament for the biggest teams in Europe. Seeing as Liverpool won that tournament, they can easily lay claim to being the best team in Europe. They might not be on paper, but they've got the title to prove it. You can't state that someone else is better than Liverpool if they were beaten by them in a tournament which is meant to determine who is best in the continent.
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:37
"Darkness, always"
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You're correct in that the Champion's League is the premier European competition, but my point is that it is essentially nothing more than a glorified knockout competition. As such, the best team will not always win it. The last two years alone are testimony.

Manchester United losing to eventual winners Porto because of a shocking offside decision. Liverpool beating AC Milan thanks to a Gerrard dive.

These things happen, but in such tight circumstances where one of these decisions determines ultimate victory, a team that is not necessarily superior to their opponents always have a chance of squeezing through.

As I say, Liverpool are the Cup holders, but that does not make them the best team in Europe. It simply means they had a good run in a cup competition. Middlesborough have had equal fortune in recent years. Millwall can also claim almost as much.
Tue 05/07/05 at 21:52
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"Colourless"
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AfroJoe wrote:
> You can't state that
> someone else is better than Liverpool if they were beaten by them in
> a tournament which is meant to determine who is best in the
> continent.

What if a team beat them twice in the league and once in the FA Cup? And finished higher in the league? Can they then claim to be better than them?

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