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...apparently there's thousands of people washing up on the beach in Indonesia...
Wonders if this has been put up before...
Wonders if this has been put up before...
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Strafio wrote:
> I'll try again people! :-P
>
> Strafio wrote:
> I guess the idea is that those starving have always been like that,
> so
> I guess we've gotten used to that, and I think that they have too
> (not that it's an excuse for ignoring them).
>
> The difference comes in that most of these people, the Sri Lankans,
> Indians etc, they had homes and lives we could relate to. I had
> friends who'd visited the place and made friends there.
> And these lives they used to have, they suddenly got destroyed and
> taken away.
>
> I guess that's why the shock comes in.
>
> These people used to have everything and lost it...
>
>
>
> Although I agree that people seem to get caught up in the emotion of
> a "disaster" when it's medialised but are happy to forget
> all the other problems in the world.
> Which is fair enough because you can't have your mind on everything
> at once, but it does make militants who get oversensitive about
> jokes like yours seems a bit silly.
>
> But then no ones been so militant on here.
> Just didn't like the joke.
> Didn't condemn you or anything for making it.
i sort of did and im sorry i ment no offence :(
> I'll try again people! :-P
>
> Strafio wrote:
> I guess the idea is that those starving have always been like that,
> so
> I guess we've gotten used to that, and I think that they have too
> (not that it's an excuse for ignoring them).
>
> The difference comes in that most of these people, the Sri Lankans,
> Indians etc, they had homes and lives we could relate to. I had
> friends who'd visited the place and made friends there.
> And these lives they used to have, they suddenly got destroyed and
> taken away.
>
> I guess that's why the shock comes in.
>
> These people used to have everything and lost it...
>
>
>
> Although I agree that people seem to get caught up in the emotion of
> a "disaster" when it's medialised but are happy to forget
> all the other problems in the world.
> Which is fair enough because you can't have your mind on everything
> at once, but it does make militants who get oversensitive about
> jokes like yours seems a bit silly.
>
> But then no ones been so militant on here.
> Just didn't like the joke.
> Didn't condemn you or anything for making it.
i sort of did and im sorry i ment no offence :(
Forza wrote:
> Screw the tastelessness, it's a crap joke either way.
Since we're all at it, I'll do the same with my somewhat shorter post.
> Screw the tastelessness, it's a crap joke either way.
Since we're all at it, I'll do the same with my somewhat shorter post.
I'll try again people! :-P
Strafio wrote:
> I guess the idea is that those starving have always been like that, so
> I guess we've gotten used to that, and I think that they have too
> (not that it's an excuse for ignoring them).
>
> The difference comes in that most of these people, the Sri Lankans,
> Indians etc, they had homes and lives we could relate to. I had
> friends who'd visited the place and made friends there.
> And these lives they used to have, they suddenly got destroyed and
> taken away.
>
> I guess that's why the shock comes in.
>
> These people used to have everything and lost it...
>
>
>
> Although I agree that people seem to get caught up in the emotion of
> a "disaster" when it's medialised but are happy to forget
> all the other problems in the world.
> Which is fair enough because you can't have your mind on everything
> at once, but it does make militants who get oversensitive about
> jokes like yours seems a bit silly.
But then no ones been so militant on here.
Just didn't like the joke.
Didn't condemn you or anything for making it.
Strafio wrote:
> I guess the idea is that those starving have always been like that, so
> I guess we've gotten used to that, and I think that they have too
> (not that it's an excuse for ignoring them).
>
> The difference comes in that most of these people, the Sri Lankans,
> Indians etc, they had homes and lives we could relate to. I had
> friends who'd visited the place and made friends there.
> And these lives they used to have, they suddenly got destroyed and
> taken away.
>
> I guess that's why the shock comes in.
>
> These people used to have everything and lost it...
>
>
>
> Although I agree that people seem to get caught up in the emotion of
> a "disaster" when it's medialised but are happy to forget
> all the other problems in the world.
> Which is fair enough because you can't have your mind on everything
> at once, but it does make militants who get oversensitive about
> jokes like yours seems a bit silly.
But then no ones been so militant on here.
Just didn't like the joke.
Didn't condemn you or anything for making it.
Goatboy wrote:
> Your Honour wrote:
> Also, there seems to be a large number of people on here who have
> been directly affected by the tragedy. At least, that's how
> it
> seems from some of the replies....
> And apart from Sweet Tooth, everybody else has merely said it was
> tasteless and unamusing - not telling you what to do or say.
> So if you're getting moody about being oppressed (which for the life
> of me I can't find posts like that), then you have to accept that
> others are equally correct in telling you that you shouldn't have
> posted it.
> But again I come back to not seeing posts like that?
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*pop*
The response in this thread has been to say how tasteless the joke was, and to discuss your insistence that nobody can tell you not to say it.
And again, sorry to labour the point, you're getting shirty about how dare people try to impose restrictions on what you say - but I can't see any posts telling you not to, merely expressing that it wasn't funny?
> Your Honour wrote:
> Also, there seems to be a large number of people on here who have
> been directly affected by the tragedy. At least, that's how
> it
> seems from some of the replies....
> And apart from Sweet Tooth, everybody else has merely said it was
> tasteless and unamusing - not telling you what to do or say.
> So if you're getting moody about being oppressed (which for the life
> of me I can't find posts like that), then you have to accept that
> others are equally correct in telling you that you shouldn't have
> posted it.
> But again I come back to not seeing posts like that?
---
*pop*
The response in this thread has been to say how tasteless the joke was, and to discuss your insistence that nobody can tell you not to say it.
And again, sorry to labour the point, you're getting shirty about how dare people try to impose restrictions on what you say - but I can't see any posts telling you not to, merely expressing that it wasn't funny?
Light wrote:
> Do those 1 million children die on the same day? I don't wish to
> denigrate their deaths, but can't you see how much more powerful a
> blow to ones psyche it is when so many die at once? Using your logic,
> there's nothing special about the holocaust.
No, they do not die on the same day. I can see how much more of a powerful blow it is. However, you seem to be saying that the tsunami is more important because it did happen all on one day.
And as for your holocaust comment, I would expect more from you.
> Do those 1 million children die on the same day? I don't wish to
> denigrate their deaths, but can't you see how much more powerful a
> blow to ones psyche it is when so many die at once? Using your logic,
> there's nothing special about the holocaust.
No, they do not die on the same day. I can see how much more of a powerful blow it is. However, you seem to be saying that the tsunami is more important because it did happen all on one day.
And as for your holocaust comment, I would expect more from you.
Your Honour wrote:
> A ginger person could be more offended by a joke about them, than a
> joke about people thousands of miles away who he/she has never met
> and is never likely to meet. Well, they won't be meeting them, cos
> they're dead.
I disagree entirely.
It's astonishing that mocking someone's hair colour is being compared to a tasteless joke about the death of hundreds of thousands of people, and the devastation caused to a number of countries which will take decades to clear up.
> A ginger person could be more offended by a joke about them, than a
> joke about people thousands of miles away who he/she has never met
> and is never likely to meet. Well, they won't be meeting them, cos
> they're dead.
I disagree entirely.
It's astonishing that mocking someone's hair colour is being compared to a tasteless joke about the death of hundreds of thousands of people, and the devastation caused to a number of countries which will take decades to clear up.
Exactly. If a mortgage was given to me by a bank on similar terms to some of the loans given to developing nations by the Western World, then that bank would very quickly find itself up in front of the Ombudsman, fined, and quickly out of business.
Perhaps if we stopped propping up dictators in resource-rich 3rd world countries and giving them carte-blanche to do whatever they like to their own people just so long as the oil/diamonds/(insert appropriate natural resource here) keeps flowing.
Just a thought.
Perhaps if we stopped propping up dictators in resource-rich 3rd world countries and giving them carte-blanche to do whatever they like to their own people just so long as the oil/diamonds/(insert appropriate natural resource here) keeps flowing.
Just a thought.
They could always just cancel the debt, now there's an idea.
So the millions they give would actually do something other than going straight back to the big rich idiot countries.
So the millions they give would actually do something other than going straight back to the big rich idiot countries.
There is a concentrated aid effort to third world countries already, which are blighted by econonmic disaster. What happened in Asia was a natural disaster, so it cannot be compared. I see your point, YH, but billions more has already been pumped into Africa than Asia will ever see, with little effect due to corrupt factions determined to keep the country in a state of poverty for the masses, luxury for themselves. That's how I see it anyway.
Your Honour wrote:
> 1 million children die every year of Malaria in Afric. No one else
> blinks an eyelid.
>
> See my point? If I made a joke about some skinny kid in Africa, some
> people wouldn't find it amusing, maybe some would. But it wouldn't
> give a thread that would end up 120+ posts long.
How in the hell do you know? Have you started any such thread? Have you quizzed everyone here about it? Or are you just assuming that what the media say is an accurate reflection of what everyone thinks?
Do those 1 million children die on the same day? I don't wish to denigrate their deaths, but can't you see how much more powerful a blow to ones psyche it is when so many die at once? Using your logic, there's nothing special about the holocaust.
> 1 million children die every year of Malaria in Afric. No one else
> blinks an eyelid.
>
> See my point? If I made a joke about some skinny kid in Africa, some
> people wouldn't find it amusing, maybe some would. But it wouldn't
> give a thread that would end up 120+ posts long.
How in the hell do you know? Have you started any such thread? Have you quizzed everyone here about it? Or are you just assuming that what the media say is an accurate reflection of what everyone thinks?
Do those 1 million children die on the same day? I don't wish to denigrate their deaths, but can't you see how much more powerful a blow to ones psyche it is when so many die at once? Using your logic, there's nothing special about the holocaust.
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