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Wed 15/12/04 at 16:24
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What is going on with Nintendo I thought that after all these years of fobbing us off with inferior tripe that was graphically no better than a SNES game they have managed to pull it off again.

I have seen screens of Mario DS, some really ropey Ngage racer port and of the Ridge Racer game and they are shocking, no textures, blocky graphics and
no better than a first gen PS1 game.

Having seen a comparison between the DS ridge racer game and PSP ridge racer game there is only one your are gonna want to play on and it ain't the one with the gimmicey stylus.

Nintendo DS stands the (Dier System), this console was realised and produced in a year and it shows.
Thu 16/12/04 at 22:35
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Strafio wrote:

> The PSP has an analogue stick, which is a plus... but doesn't make up
> for the rest of it...

The PSP doesn't have an analogue stick.
Thu 16/12/04 at 22:41
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Yes it does...

I've seen pictures and articles mention it, how they had to stretch their thumb a bit. I think it's in the top left corner..
It's not in the best of places but it's an analogue stick all the same.

Unless it's something different that you're about to enlighten me about...
Thu 16/12/04 at 22:54
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Ah so it does, sorry, looking at it wrong.
Thu 16/12/04 at 23:07
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Analogue stick - 1 point to Sony
Better graphics - 1 point to Sony

The rest?
Gizmo's like the MP3 player and movie player, are they worth anything?
Both systems are matched for wireless ability...


I'd say the the DS wins it for journeys, with the longer battery (although the PSP would last most journeys, you'd have to have it prepared fully charged before hand and hardly play it before and after).
Wireless Mario 64 and Bomberman would be hits although the PSP can potentially match them, so what wins it for DS is pictochat.
Even non gamers can have a laugh with that.


Also, you might think that the touchscreen means little now, but once the unnofficial hentai games start appearing in Japan, complete with the flavoured waterproof touchscreen cover...

EVERY teenage kid will want one!

I can't see similar things happening in the west though... :-)
Fri 17/12/04 at 10:23
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"and PC user"
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These little features sound fun, but is that in its self a problem? Really, does it just give the idea out that its a "toy" for the yougest gamers only. The result could be that more serious or older gamers (with more money) may go for PSP.
Fri 17/12/04 at 13:28
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How many older gamers do you see playing handheld games?

I mean I was only down the pub the other day and half the pub had their gameboys in their hands because there is nothing "cooler".

The DS can also play movies and music with the new adaption but not that it matters.

The idea behind the DS is that it is new and fresh and will hopefully capture the imagination of the public.

The PSP... well... isn't.
Sat 18/12/04 at 12:20
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Dringo wrote:
> How many older gamers do you see playing handheld games?
>
> I mean I was only down the pub the other day and half the pub had
> their gameboys in their hands because there is nothing
> "cooler".
>
> The DS can also play movies and music with the new adaption but not
> that it matters.
>
> The idea behind the DS is that it is new and fresh and will hopefully
> capture the imagination of the public.
>
> The PSP... well... isn't.

Yea, but Sony played this trick with the first PlayStation. They went for a slightly older age group. Without doubt, this lead to many more adult games than would have been released on Nintendo/Sega. Sony have made it cool for people of all ages to play games. Now this could happen again in the hand held market.
Sat 18/12/04 at 12:22
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Strafio wrote:
> I've seen pictures and articles mention it, how they had to stretch
> their thumb a bit. I think it's in the top left corner..
> It's not in the best of places but it's an analogue stick all the
> same.

It's to the lower right of the d-pad. That little black circle.
Sat 18/12/04 at 13:06
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Macintosh wrote:
> These little features sound fun, but is that in its self a problem?
> Really, does it just give the idea out that its a "toy" for
> the yougest gamers only.


Eye-Toy?

Case closed.
Sat 18/12/04 at 13:08
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Macintosh wrote:

>
> Yea, but Sony played this trick with the first PlayStation. They went
> for a slightly older age group. Without doubt, this lead to many more
> adult games than would have been released on Nintendo/Sega. Sony have
> made it cool for people of all ages to play games. Now this could
> happen again in the hand held market.

Playstation is still not all that "cool" but it was alright to play, after all you have it in your house, chat with your mates about it.

Being seen around town with a PSP is just sad! An I-pod is one thing but would you walk around the shops, sit on the beach with some pretty looking lasses around or go to the park and play on a PSP?

Handheld market is not the home console market, you'd be an idiot for thinking it is the same. The DS is also trying to appeal to a slightly older market as well as a younger one... it also appeals to hardcore gamers. This is a MISTAKE I've said it once and I'll say it again. The DS may do very well as a new fangled device and the PSP may sell well because it is a nice gadget.

But neither of them will set the world alight in terms of sales. Nah. Leave that to the GBA.

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