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Mon 27/09/04 at 15:16
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"Big Pimpin'"
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Racism

Firstly define Racism for me? As I feel we’ve gone racism mad on everything, and have almost started going in the opposite way. From what I’ve read and heard over the past few months we, as a society, are taking things a step too far. In schools blackboards are now no longer allowed to be called blackboards but chalkboards, as otherwise it’s ‘claimed’ it’s racist towards Black people. How exactly does that work then, as quite simply it’s a board and it’s black…what’s racist about that?

On the other side of the board (boom boom – although no pun intended) white boards which are wipe clean and use a pen are allowed to be called white boards…which is in direct contrast to my point above!! I can’t really understand why people find issue with such things as we’re no different to one another and if the colour of an item is described as black or white that is because it is black or white. If the current trend carries on then it’ll surely lead to a banning of certain colours! No more Yellow lines on the road – Offensive to people of Asian decent and the Simpsons, no more white lines in the middle of roads - Offensive to white people, no more green grass – Offensive to the Poddington Peas, no more black suit and tie at funerals – Offensive to people of African decent. It’s utter lunacy. What about people that get sun tans or use sun beds too often (Dale Winton etc)? Is Tan Leather interior for cars going to be banned or made to change its name? Blimey at this rate even saying something transparent is going to be offensive to Jellyfish.

Have you ever seen any Def Jam comedy videos featuring the likes of Chris Rock, Bernie Mack, David Chapelle etc. If so you’ll notice that theres always the odd white person in the crowd that gets spotted and has the Mickey taken for being the only white guy/girl for several blocks. Ever seen a film such as Money Talks, Rush Hour or TV shows such as The Fresh Prince, Goodness Gracious Me (particularly the scene where they go for an English – Hilarious) etc – White and Chinese people are the butt of many a joke. But can you imagine what would happen to the career or someone like Lee Evans or Jack Dee if they made a joke about black people!

Anyone watched the MOBOs in recent years? Well the MOBO’s does exactly what it says on the tin, its an award ceremony to celebrate Music Of Black Origin. Anybody ever heard of the MOWOs (Music Of White Origin)…Nope?…That’s because it doesn’t exist. I personally think there isn’t one, because rather than white people not being proud of the roots of their music, there would be a huge problem from the black community that it shuns them etc.

Sex Discrimination

It’s a case of wanting the best of both worlds which you can’t have in todays day and age. Moving on nicely, but still keeping with the idea of groups/events which segregate people. Not so long back there was a row that erupted over a Mens golfing tour. The issue was that Laura Davis, Britains No. 1 Golfer and for World Number 1, wanted to compete alongside the men. Now again I’ve got no problem with this as why shouldn’t a female be able to complete with men at a sport! However the Mens PGA wasn’t happy with this as they saw it as a mens only tour. Unsurprisingly there was a backlash from women golfers and eventually the Mens PGA backed down and Let Laura play. Not before however they raised the question…so can we let a man, say Tiger Woods, play on the Womans tour. I’ll let you guess the answer but I’ll give you a clue, it begins with an N and ends with an O. Needless to say Laura Davis came last, missed the cut and has decided not to request playing on a mens tour since!!

Across the country there are also several ‘Mens’ clubs and associations, which all forbid the joining of female members. It amazes me that the people that won’t let Females join this club are actually over the age of 10. As last time I checked it was only men under this age that didn’t like a females company.

There’s also always talk of Women earning less money than men for the same job. Personally I’d like to bring to the attention of those people (and I don’t disagree with you) Tony and Cherrie Blair….Shes a Lawyer and earns Circa £200k a year…He (tries to) runs the country and earns circa £110k!!

There’s currently a big debate in many schools and I remember having the debate with a few teachers when I was at school, and that is that boys are not allowed to wear shorts in the summer, but girls are allowed to wear skirts. I found the only way to get around this was to either ask if it’s ok to wear a Kilt, or secondly, say you’re having a sexual identity crisis and could you wear a skirt…If they say no, ask them why they’re being homophobic!
Mon 27/09/04 at 15:16
Regular
"Big Pimpin'"
Posts: 664
Racism

Firstly define Racism for me? As I feel we’ve gone racism mad on everything, and have almost started going in the opposite way. From what I’ve read and heard over the past few months we, as a society, are taking things a step too far. In schools blackboards are now no longer allowed to be called blackboards but chalkboards, as otherwise it’s ‘claimed’ it’s racist towards Black people. How exactly does that work then, as quite simply it’s a board and it’s black…what’s racist about that?

On the other side of the board (boom boom – although no pun intended) white boards which are wipe clean and use a pen are allowed to be called white boards…which is in direct contrast to my point above!! I can’t really understand why people find issue with such things as we’re no different to one another and if the colour of an item is described as black or white that is because it is black or white. If the current trend carries on then it’ll surely lead to a banning of certain colours! No more Yellow lines on the road – Offensive to people of Asian decent and the Simpsons, no more white lines in the middle of roads - Offensive to white people, no more green grass – Offensive to the Poddington Peas, no more black suit and tie at funerals – Offensive to people of African decent. It’s utter lunacy. What about people that get sun tans or use sun beds too often (Dale Winton etc)? Is Tan Leather interior for cars going to be banned or made to change its name? Blimey at this rate even saying something transparent is going to be offensive to Jellyfish.

Have you ever seen any Def Jam comedy videos featuring the likes of Chris Rock, Bernie Mack, David Chapelle etc. If so you’ll notice that theres always the odd white person in the crowd that gets spotted and has the Mickey taken for being the only white guy/girl for several blocks. Ever seen a film such as Money Talks, Rush Hour or TV shows such as The Fresh Prince, Goodness Gracious Me (particularly the scene where they go for an English – Hilarious) etc – White and Chinese people are the butt of many a joke. But can you imagine what would happen to the career or someone like Lee Evans or Jack Dee if they made a joke about black people!

Anyone watched the MOBOs in recent years? Well the MOBO’s does exactly what it says on the tin, its an award ceremony to celebrate Music Of Black Origin. Anybody ever heard of the MOWOs (Music Of White Origin)…Nope?…That’s because it doesn’t exist. I personally think there isn’t one, because rather than white people not being proud of the roots of their music, there would be a huge problem from the black community that it shuns them etc.

Sex Discrimination

It’s a case of wanting the best of both worlds which you can’t have in todays day and age. Moving on nicely, but still keeping with the idea of groups/events which segregate people. Not so long back there was a row that erupted over a Mens golfing tour. The issue was that Laura Davis, Britains No. 1 Golfer and for World Number 1, wanted to compete alongside the men. Now again I’ve got no problem with this as why shouldn’t a female be able to complete with men at a sport! However the Mens PGA wasn’t happy with this as they saw it as a mens only tour. Unsurprisingly there was a backlash from women golfers and eventually the Mens PGA backed down and Let Laura play. Not before however they raised the question…so can we let a man, say Tiger Woods, play on the Womans tour. I’ll let you guess the answer but I’ll give you a clue, it begins with an N and ends with an O. Needless to say Laura Davis came last, missed the cut and has decided not to request playing on a mens tour since!!

Across the country there are also several ‘Mens’ clubs and associations, which all forbid the joining of female members. It amazes me that the people that won’t let Females join this club are actually over the age of 10. As last time I checked it was only men under this age that didn’t like a females company.

There’s also always talk of Women earning less money than men for the same job. Personally I’d like to bring to the attention of those people (and I don’t disagree with you) Tony and Cherrie Blair….Shes a Lawyer and earns Circa £200k a year…He (tries to) runs the country and earns circa £110k!!

There’s currently a big debate in many schools and I remember having the debate with a few teachers when I was at school, and that is that boys are not allowed to wear shorts in the summer, but girls are allowed to wear skirts. I found the only way to get around this was to either ask if it’s ok to wear a Kilt, or secondly, say you’re having a sexual identity crisis and could you wear a skirt…If they say no, ask them why they’re being homophobic!
Mon 27/09/04 at 15:34
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Posts: 11,038
It's PC. It's abnother cause of problems, but of course, we can do nothing about it, because if we even attempt to tryand change anything, we either racist, sexist or something elsist.

It's madness but it's only madness in Britain, everywhere else is fine, really, it's just because we want to welcome immigrants so much so to our country, for the racism thhing, and the sexism comes from women who think they are just as good as men. Now, I'm not saying a woman can't be as good as a man, but I bet they would never work in a building site, and for jobs such as firepeople for training their backpacks are much lighter to accomidate for their lower muscle percentage. Of course they don't seem to complain about that either.
Mon 27/09/04 at 15:37
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
I call chalkboards chalkboards because if I didn't, I'd get attacked by the terrible PC-Enforcers, who lurk eveywhere and are everything!!!!111!

*sighs*
Mon 27/09/04 at 15:45
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
hang on. Your argument about 'Sex Discrimination'............has absoloutely no point to it at all....
Mon 27/09/04 at 15:48
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
munn wrote:
>, and the sexism comes from
> women who think they are just as good as men. Now, I'm not saying a
> woman can't be as good as a man,

What do you mean, 'as good as'?

You idiot, try to understand the point. It's not about being 'as good as', if that actually had any relevant meaning, it's about equality - women and men being able to do the same stuff freely. If anything, you should say either sex should be allowed to do anything they wanted to (i.e a certain job). Whether they are able to is an entirely different matter.
Mon 27/09/04 at 16:02
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"Big Pimpin'"
Posts: 664
Cyclone wrote:
> hang on. Your argument about 'Sex Discrimination'............has
> absoloutely no point to it at all....

‘My’ point to sex discrimination is that whilst woman want to involve themselves more with things currently associated with being a male dominant environment/practice, then there can be no double standards when there is a request for reciprocation into something made dominant by woman from the male society.
Mon 27/09/04 at 16:26
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"Brooklyn boy"
Posts: 14,935
There'll never be such a thing as equality seeing as it's human nature to always want more then you have.
Mon 27/09/04 at 16:36
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"Peace Respect Punk"
Posts: 8,069
The sexism issue, in sports and the like men and women should be seperated really. Most sports rely on physical strength and the fact is that in general males are stronger physically than females. So as the golf thing pointed out, the women would probably end up getting beaten by the blokes anyway, so it makes far more sense to have mens and womens leagues or whatnot. There is the problem that men in sports get paid loads because TV companies want to show the sport, and womens sports are pretty much neglected by TV, but people don't tend to want to watch womens games... My own mum watches Wimbledon every year, but likes the Mens better because it's faster and more exciting as she puts it...

As for the whole PC shiznit... no-one actually cares. The only people who seem to make a fuss are those who are going "oh no everything is so PC, I can't say anything is a colour or I'll be called racist!"... I mean give the world some credit, most people are intelligent enough to realise when someone is actually making a racist comment as opposed to saying "blackboard" or "accident blackspot" or whatever...
Mon 27/09/04 at 16:47
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Posts: 9,848
Racism is changing the way you treat someone because of their race.
Sexism is changing the way you treat someone because of their gender.

Racism isn't necessarily wrong because at the end if the day, races have their own cultures of thinking, meaning, living and ettiquette and the like.
Sexism isn't necessarily wrong because at the end of the day, men and women are biologically different.

So you have to judge for yourself what discrimination is right and wrong.


That's right people.
You have to think for yourselves.
Mon 27/09/04 at 16:51
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Posts: 11,038
Cyclone wrote:
> munn wrote:
> >, and the sexism comes from
> women who think they are just as good as men. Now, I'm not saying a
> woman can't be as good as a man,
>
> What do you mean, 'as good as'?
>
> You idiot, try to understand the point. It's not about being 'as good
> as', if that actually had any relevant meaning, it's about equality -
> women and men being able to do the same stuff freely. If anything,
> you should say either sex should be allowed to do anything
> they wanted to (i.e a certain job). Whether they are able to
> is an entirely different matter.

That's what I meant, I was talking about the women who omplain that they are as good as a man in a certain job, but they get paid less.
Often though their job is easier (as I illustrated with the Firepeople thing).

Sorry if it came out wrong.

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