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"Need for Speed Underground 2"

What's it like, any good?

How does it play over LIVE? Many people playing it?

I'm not hugely into massively realistic driving, a la Gran Turismo, because...well...I drive every day.
Burnout 3 is excellent because it lets me race in the style I tend to in whatever game it is, which is why I hate TOCA - I aim at the other cars and find myself sitting on the grass with a busted car, penalised for missing 1 perfect line.

NSPU2 looks like dumb fun, and I can put neon on my car and cruise around trying to buy beer and score with fat teenagers

PGR2 is a superior racing game in every single way.

And it's still good fun.

Without the added EA 'down wiv da hood' corporate sponsors.

I heard NFSU's ranking approach is better ie there are leagues etc.

The online play on NFSU2 is, in my opinion, pretty poor. Certainly compared to PGR2 and Burnout 3. It's just not very rewarding - a lot of it simply seems to be down to who's got the best car and can race the dirtiest.

In Burnout 3 you know where you stand - it's perfect for Live play cause knocking people into wallls is actually part of the game.

But take a game like PGR2 and add a few idiots (who ALWAYS race like that) and it becomes very irritating.

Juiced and Forza will be definite purchases this year though. Two very different games that have a huge amount of potential.