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Tue 01/08/00 at 10:58
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With internet costs crashing down and no longer always depending upon usage, and with higher bandwith products just around the corner will online gaming really take off?
It's obvios that games are more fun when playing with friend, that's one of the reasons why Goldeneye was so popular, so is it the same when playing with strangers that you can't see across the internet?

I suppose that with the development of AI to new levels will we be able to tell if we are interacting with another person or a computer controlled character?
Tue 01/08/00 at 10:58
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With internet costs crashing down and no longer always depending upon usage, and with higher bandwith products just around the corner will online gaming really take off?
It's obvios that games are more fun when playing with friend, that's one of the reasons why Goldeneye was so popular, so is it the same when playing with strangers that you can't see across the internet?

I suppose that with the development of AI to new levels will we be able to tell if we are interacting with another person or a computer controlled character?
Wed 02/08/00 at 01:16
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but what is the point a Final Fantasy 11 being a game which you can only play on the internet? because it is not going to be a multiplayer game, is it?
Wed 02/08/00 at 10:22
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I've tried so-called online gaming a couple of times with a friend on the other side of town and we also tried playing the same games when he brought his PC over to my place (he has a car so this made it feasable). Being in the same room (still without being able to see each others screens) and being able to talk to each other rather than type abbreviated messages made the experience far more enjoyable.

The cost isn't really a factor for us as we both live in Hull and when we dial a local number we can spend as long as we like connected for only 5.5p. The same can be said for internet charges (admittedly plus an acceptable monthly fee).

I know some of you will be thinking about not being able to invite people from other countries to your room to play a game of whatever but why would you want to play with them at all? You have no idea who they are and will more than likely never meet them in your entire life. The only differences between this and playing against the computer are that they are less pridictable and you can type messages to them. Typing to them spoils the flow of the game (especially if you're also wrestling with a joypad as well and not just a mouse and keyboard).

The other point, about less predicability, stems from the AI of the game in question. Here I agree with you. Surely this is the area in which the attention should be focused. Although I haven't played it myself, I've been told the AI in Perfect Dark is very commendable. Compare this to the computer opponents of a couple of years ago, who would follow one of a couple of pre-determined patterns until they either won or lost. Thigs can only get better.

The future shouldn't be online gaming. The future should encourage (but not be dominated by) multi-player gaming. Video games have finally risen above their image of nerdy kids playing alone in their bedrooms. Online gaming would only kick it back down again.
Wed 02/08/00 at 19:14
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The point off FF11 is that in Japan and the US broad band is very usual. Online gaming culture is far more developed, and gamers in Japan want it. Over here though few people have more than one phone line, and the likelyhood of an FF11 release are zero. After all, so many square games don't come out over here. I wonder if PSO (DC) will do well over here?

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Wed 16/08/00 at 11:40
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FF 11 isnt even been fully designed, so how do you know it is online.
Wed 16/08/00 at 21:04
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Well you all make good points, but on-line gaming is great fun. Take Diablo 2 for example, it's great to run around slaughtering evil demons with people from anywhere in the world. I have many people i consider friends that i have met on-line but never face to face, and i feel that, despite never having physically met these people, i can trust them. No i don't go around giving out my address to anyone that asks! But i think that the internet is a perfectly acceptable way to meet new people. I happen to know that people who meet on-line do very often meet up and get along fine (i know a married couple who met on-line with one in Europe and one in America). So don't attack on-line gaming because it's new (sort of), and remember that although some games are designed specificaly for multiplayer, the vast majority are still concentrating on making a good single player experience (and mostly with multiplayer options too, which can only be good!). Oh and never forget that it's okay to know people on-line, as well as knowing people in everyday life!
Mon 06/11/00 at 12:39
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That's the oldest topic of mine I can find. I didn't start with a console wars speech, I bothered to read the posts that had gone before, and saw that it had been done to death....
Mon 06/11/00 at 22:28
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bigbadwolf - The whole point of playing games online is to get a new challenge out of a game. Players act differently to AI controlled players. Its a way of testing how good you are beyond a group of close friends. The typing is a pain as your moving around, but companies are starting to make stuff like a head set that you can talk through. If i remember right theres a space simulator / shoot em up that can be played online and it uses this type of stuff so that teams of players can talk to eachother as they fight another team. By the looks of it it supported a lot of players too - i think its that game Tachyon (probably just spelt it wrong). Obviously only certain games use it at the moment, but its a start so soon enough we could have a new element to online gaming. As far as internet costs go, i dunno if you all know, but AOL have just introduced a price plan where you pay £15 a month membership. There is no phonebill to worry about so you can stay on as long as you want which is a great thing for anyone playing online PC games :-)
Maybe Sega will try to work something similar out cause if your playing online games, the last thing you want is to have to keep track of how long you've been on.
One game i enjoyed playing online was Age Of Empires 2. It was different to play against players than the comp. My first game was a 2 vs 2 match. Me and my team mate won, but it was really down to a jammy way i managed to regroup my men and build again quickly which did it ;-))
I won't go into the boring details but it was quite funny ;-))
I can't wait till that game Black and White comes out - that looks such an excellent game :-) The online part sounds interesting too. Although you'll never meet at least most of the players you come accross online, it can be a really interesting experience. I played Age Of Empires 2 with people from countries all over the globe. I got on really well with a couple of team mates and because the server gave us a buddy list we were able to see when eachother was online and organise another game together. So really you tend to end up making online friends :-) Although its not the same as your group off the comp its still an experience, kinda like a social life online ;-)) This forum is similar, we all have our friends, but people socialise using this forum and have become online friends.
There are a lot of people out there playing games, although the way we talk to them now is limited, online gaming offers us a chance to meet and compare our skills with thousands of others.

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